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06-06-2008, 08:36 AM
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06-06-2008, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by pabeader  come on charlie, just buy the jerks and move on | If it weren't for these patents Tivo would have been dead already..... Buy them out and end the threat of that Sword of Damocles hanging over E*'s head.
Not to mention that an E* box with Tivo AND Slingbox features would be a world beater. D* still has sports, but E* can reposition themselves as the enthusiast's service (assuming that brand of enthusiast could care less about out of market sports)
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06-06-2008, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by HalfFull How about this....Charlie buys Tivo, throws the existing case so EchoTivoStar wins, and then goes after Motorola, Direct, etc and makes another Billion! | Nope, DirecTV bought a license when this all started. They are clear. And Motorola had Tivo write the CableBox Tivo firmware, so I think they are ok also since Tivo would not sue someone they are working with to modify their boxes to be tivos.
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06-06-2008, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BobMurdoch If it weren't for these patents Tivo would have been dead already..... Buy them out and end the threat of that Sword of Damocles hanging over E*'s head.
Not to mention that an E* box with Tivo AND Slingbox features would be a world beater. D* still has sports, but E* can reposition themselves as the enthusiast's service (assuming that brand of enthusiast could care less about out of market sports) | License the technology and this all goes away. Why is Charlie so stuborn? He is already overcharging his customers for DVR service.
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06-06-2008, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by philhu Motorola had Tivo write the CableBox Tivo firmware, so I think they are ok also since Tivo would not sue someone they are working with to modify their boxes to be tivos. | TiVo has not made any deals with Motorola. TiVo wrote the software for the Motorola boxes on their own.
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06-06-2008, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Curtis0620 License the technology and this all goes away. Why is Charlie so stuborn? He is already overcharging his customers for DVR service. | I completely agree with you on this one.
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06-06-2008, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by philhu Nope, DirecTV bought a license when this all started. They are clear. And Motorola had Tivo write the CableBox Tivo firmware, so I think they are ok also since Tivo would not sue someone they are working with to modify their boxes to be tivos. |
WRONG!!!!
DirecTV didn't buy a license.
They are clear because the bought ReplayTV.
ReplayTV and Tivo have patent cross licensing agreements.
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06-06-2008, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Curtis0620 How about this:
DISH turn off all your DVR's. TiVo says no to any licensing agreement since DISH has been a total a$$ about this. | A corporation turn down money, possibly a very large sum of money, because it violates their principles? Not likely.
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06-06-2008, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Sean Mota Whomever wrote the above is not in touch with reality! | In fairness it is the defendant's responsibility to explain what the realities are. If they fail to do so well it is hardly the fault of the judge.
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06-06-2008, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RVD420 ReplayTV and Tivo have patent cross licensing agreements. | No. ReplayTV and TiVo never had a cross licensing agreement. The suits were dismissed without prejudice meaning they were free to sue again. Neither company announced a cross licensing agreement.
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