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11-12-2008, 03:05 AM
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| | | Same XM/Sirius channel sounds INFERIOR on Dish than Directv I compared Channel 6036 (BPM) to Directv's XM version through digital audio output through my amp. With the same music playing, Dishnetwork's version sounds muddled and lacks good crisp fidelity compared to Directv's version.
I do listen to lots of music on Dishnetwork. I'd hate to keep Directv active just to get better fidelity in music (even though I'm keeping Directv due to lack of LOGO channel on DISH).
Also, Directv has now added DMX to its music lineup. Is Dish going to add MusicChoice perhaps to replace the removed Sirius channels, such as its retro dance channel (formerly of Strobe)?
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11-12-2008, 07:49 AM
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i respectfully disagree. to me the sirius on E sounds way Better than the XM on D.
Sirius on E is in DD 5.0 while on D i have to upconvert the sound to Dolby surround. that's my case.
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11-12-2008, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by REY_1178 i respectfully disagree. to me the sirius on E sounds way Better than the XM on D.
Sirius on E is in DD 5.0 while on D i have to upconvert the sound to Dolby surround. that's my case. | The Strobe and other channels have been removed from Sirius and replaced with some XM channels. This is a SiriusXM move and has nothing to do with E*.
The new lineup can be views here: SIRIUS Satellite Radio - New Channel Lineup: Music
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11-12-2008, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by REY_1178 i respectfully disagree. to me the sirius on E sounds way Better than the XM on D.
Sirius on E is in DD 5.0 while on D i have to upconvert the sound to Dolby surround. that's my case. | What receiver are you using? It's a 2 channel signal on the Sirius channels on my ViP622. I also have a Sirius Sportster 4 in my truck, and Sirius built into my VW stereo, and the quality on Dish is pretty sad...there's a stutter on all of channels that's hard to ignore, and it's especially apparent on a sustained note.
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11-12-2008, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CFilkins What receiver are you using? It's a 2 channel signal on the Sirius channels on my ViP622. I also have a Sirius Sportster 4 in my truck, and Sirius built into my VW stereo, and the quality on Dish is pretty sad...there's a stutter on all of channels that's hard to ignore, and it's especially apparent on a sustained note.
Chris | I was getting until recently through optical 5.0 surround on the sirius channels. i'll check later today. i haven't used these channels for almost 4 months now so it might have lost quality recently.
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11-12-2008, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by REY_1178 Sirius on E is in DD 5.0 while on D i have to upconvert the sound to Dolby surround. that's my case. | That is not true. The signal is 2.0 on E*. Your receiver may be converting it to a 5 channel output, but it is NOT 5.0.
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11-12-2008, 11:08 AM
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i have never heard the music off of d*, but i have no complaints about sirius from e*. actual output is 2.0, lakebum is spot on there. i will say however, the worst music i ever heard was from cox cable. even with my yamaha amp and klipsh speakers, it was so flat and depressing. I do wish though that sirius brought back the supershuffle station. that was one of my favs.
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11-12-2008, 01:59 PM
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So I'm guessing that I'm the only one that notices the constant stutter in the audio on the Sirius channels? Listening to 6001 and 6009, it's not noticeable when the volume is down, but turn up the volume a bit and it's borderline intolerable. I've connected via HDMI and optical, and the issue exists regardless of the connection. I have a Yamaha HTR-5990 receiver and JBL Studio series speakers, so I doubt it's something on that end (unless there's a sampling problem between the dish output and the rx input).
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11-12-2008, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CFilkins So I'm guessing that I'm the only one that notices the constant stutter in the audio on the Sirius channels? Listening to 6001 and 6009, it's not noticeable when the volume is down, but turn up the volume a bit and it's borderline intolerable. I've connected via HDMI and optical, and the issue exists regardless of the connection. I have a Yamaha HTR-5990 receiver and JBL Studio series speakers, so I doubt it's something on that end (unless there's a sampling problem between the dish output and the rx input).
Chris | No such problem here prior to today (and I have not checked anything today).
Since that channel has been on Dish Network for only a few hours, it is possible that there is an installation error that has yet to be fixed.
There are a couple of Sirius channel changes today where the channel name and the audio do not correspond.  So, the problem may be only on that channel (or only the newly changed channels).
PS In the past, it has been established that Dish's feed of the Sirius channels is better audio quality than the satellite radio feed...
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I've never noticed it. I just checked the two channels you mentioned and I still don't. I'm only listening to the analog output via headphones at the moment, but last night I had the classical channel going on my Onkyo system via HDMI for 4 hours and it sounded fine.
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