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01-14-2009, 02:07 PM
| | SatelliteGuys Junkie | | Join Date: Jun 30th, 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Originally Posted by vampz26  Lol...not at all... 
...All I need to do is sit back and play the fiddle.  | Then why the urge to show off in front of the maestro now?
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01-14-2009, 02:11 PM
| | SatelliteGuys Junkie | | Join Date: Jun 30th, 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Originally Posted by Laddyboy ... E* must have spent a fortune crawling through patents. ... | Both of the prior art references were presented by E* during the last reexamination, only that the USPTO failed to consider them two together, despite of E*'s request to do so.
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01-14-2009, 03:03 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jan 20th, 2006 Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by jacmyoung Then why the urge to show off in front of the maestro now? | Now, now...let's not start an argument here. Its all in fun. |
01-14-2009, 03:27 PM
|  | SatelliteGuys Junkie | | Join Date: Sep 7th, 2003 Location: Moreno Valley, CA
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Even if Tivo's patent in question here was ruled to be unenforceable, that doesn't mean that Tivo could not go on as a company. There are still a lot of people out there that would not give up their Tivo for anything, and a Tivo is the service as much as it is the hardware. They will just have to do a better job of marketing themselves, given the large (and growing) number of choices out there for DVRs and related services.
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01-14-2009, 03:46 PM
| | SatelliteGuys Junkie | | Join Date: Jun 30th, 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Originally Posted by dlsnyder Even if Tivo's patent in question here was ruled to be unenforceable, that doesn't mean that Tivo could not go on as a company. There are still a lot of people out there that would not give up their Tivo for anything, and a Tivo is the service as much as it is the hardware. They will just have to do a better job of marketing themselves, given the large (and growing) number of choices out there for DVRs and related services. | TiVo had lost about 33% of its total subs (though most of them D* accounts) since 2007, and is projected to lose more, especially now the digital convertion will render many of their own OTA boxes useless. TiVo's CEO admitted when most of those folks switch from OTA to cable/Fios/Uverse/DBS to beat the deadline, they are likely to just take those no upfront cost DVRs offered by the TV providers, rather go out to buy another digital ready TiVo standalone DVR.
TiVo has however been busy on other fronts, mainly content streaming and such, but in this area they have no patent to give them a leg up against the large field of similar competitors who actually own content for delivery.
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01-14-2009, 03:52 PM
| | SatelliteGuys Newbie | | Join Date: Nov 25th, 2005
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To be honest at first I use to love the NFL Network but as of late I have really despised it. So if Charlie does pull the plug I will not be bothered one bit for many reasons. If you ask me the NFL has become too greedy. Now eight games a year can only be seen if a person buys into a higher cable or satellite package. I hate the fact that the NFL has got so greedy that they have things like NFL Sunday Ticket and the Monday Night games on ESPN. I miss the days of good ole NFL on regular tv Networks. Not to mentioin that the NFL Network does the most biased job of covering football games. So if Charlie pulls the plug I could care less for I wish the NFL would go back to the days of Saturday December games on networks that people could watch for free compared to a subscription type network that one needs to spend more money to watch. Not to mention that in my opinion the NFL network gave dish a screw job when they aired the Giants VS Patriots regular season game on all networks. That was a game only to be aired on the NFL network which at that time Dish had on their lowest package. If you ask me I think that game is when things started to heat up between Dish and the NFL Network. This is coming from a big time NFL fan.
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01-14-2009, 04:47 PM
| | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Jul 17th, 2006
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Well, this must be good news if Greg Brimsom has shown up yet to shit all over it.
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01-14-2009, 09:57 PM
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There are other, finer points in life to enjoy. For one, consider this my post of defecation. |
01-14-2009, 10:04 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Jan 20th, 2006 Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by dlsnyder Even if Tivo's patent in question here was ruled to be unenforceable, that doesn't mean that Tivo could not go on as a company. There are still a lot of people out there that would not give up their Tivo for anything, and a Tivo is the service as much as it is the hardware. They will just have to do a better job of marketing themselves, given the large (and growing) number of choices out there for DVRs and related services. | I don't know about that...TiVo is banking their future on patents here, and they've not done very much to improve their product other than claim to have invented it.
Without a patent in their corner, the are pretty much done...and Dish undoubtedly knows this...
As far as Dish is concerned, this is either a scare tactic to get TiVo to back off, an attempt to drag this drama out further ad nauseum, or a legitimate attempt to stick a fork in TiVo and eliminate a thorn thats been in thier side for years now. Who knows...
But I know one thing, this will not end well either way...
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01-14-2009, 10:08 PM
|  | SatelliteGuys Guru | | Join Date: Feb 14th, 2004 Location: Dayton OH
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Originally Posted by dlsnyder Even if Tivo's patent in question here was ruled to be unenforceable, that doesn't mean that Tivo could not go on as a company. There are still a lot of people out there that would not give up their Tivo for anything, and a Tivo is the service as much as it is the hardware. They will just have to do a better job of marketing themselves, given the large (and growing) number of choices out there for DVRs and related services. | You must be a TiVo fan. Like it or not, TiVo is slowly dying.
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