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07-29-2009, 10:27 AM
| | SatelliteGuys Freshman | | Join Date: Mar 18th, 2009 Location: Naperville, IL
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| | | It just a matter of time...
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Originally Posted by Laddyboy  The Hauppauge uses component input though so unless E* clamps the component resolution, they will still record as always since there is no HDCP on component. | It's just a matter of time until the movie studios force the content providers to do this (downres component). Bluray will do this if the proper flag is set on the disc. The current crop upscaling DVD players won't output HD over compoenent even though it is just upscaled SD.
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07-29-2009, 10:40 AM
| | Supporting Founder | | Supporting Founder Join Date: Oct 13th, 2003 Location: Denver, Co
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Just a heads up that this could also effect a sling box plugged into the component port.
I wonder if the 622/722 can put full resolution out the HDMI port while downgrading the component. Probably not gonna happen. The component will likely be shut off if the HDMI is active with HDCP protected content.
Probably will be able to move the sling back to the s-video.
I'm not a PPV or On-Demand user either, but I suppose sooner or later they'll hit the premiums.
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07-29-2009, 01:18 PM
| | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Dec 16th, 2005 Location: Idaho Falls, ID
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Originally Posted by Hemi 6.1 Mine too, Going on 25 months now.  | I have two 622's and both of them used to work until I moved one to the basement. When I reconnected the HDMI cable it no longer worked.... not a big deal to me unless they start moving this DRM stuff to movie channels or other standard programming.
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07-29-2009, 01:29 PM
| | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: May 9th, 2008
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Originally Posted by joewhite57 There goes that extra buck profit E* charges for HD PPV. If you can't watch it in HD, what would be the point?  | Especially since you can get the HD versions through a PS3 or XBox360 instead. I thought the goal of a company was to be more convenient than your competition.
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07-29-2009, 01:38 PM
| | Pub Member / Supporter | | Pub Member / Supporter Join Date: Dec 12th, 2006 Location: Central IL/SW FL/Big Island
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In the DVD world, there are software fixes that get around HDCP and other protections. This will only guarantee less PPV business, me thinks.
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07-29-2009, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by digiblur | I have one of these.
I use it to record VOD HD all the time
It is pretty slick!
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07-29-2009, 02:04 PM
|  | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Jan 25th, 2008 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas
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What is considered older hdtv sets? I bought mine in Jan 2006, so I assume its a 2005 model. I am using the hdmi but have never used PPV up to now. I guess this will not affect me right now but I already using all my component inputs. I rather not get a switch,but may need to if I ever want to use any of the affected features.
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07-29-2009, 02:16 PM
| | SatelliteGuys Junkie | | Join Date: Dec 27th, 2006
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Related to above...................
I dont have a bluray but do they require HDMI/HDCP for HD?
I have never ordered PPV nor do I have a premium but my HDTV only has one HDMI port. Currently that is how my 622 is connected. So if I want both the bluray and the 622 (for PPV or whatever) does that mean at the minimum I will need a switcher? If so that would suck and just adds to the cost I was hoping to save for later this year.
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07-29-2009, 02:26 PM
| | Banned | | Join Date: Oct 4th, 2003 Location: BA, CA
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As it was mentioned - when the flag will be enforced, all devices will follow the rule.
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07-29-2009, 03:30 PM
|  | Pub Member / Supporter | | Pub Member / Supporter Join Date: Sep 30th, 2006 Location: Great High Plains
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| | | Bull
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Originally Posted by mike123abc The content owners will probably require Dish to auto switch to 480p if no HDCP is present on the HDMI. They will probably have to turn off the component outputs in the protected mode.
Of course there probably is a large set of people using the HD receivers on HD sets with Svideo or composit...
Most people probably will never know if anything changes unless they put a pop up saying that it was downresed. Most have trouble seeing the difference between 480p and 1080i unless they are looking for it. | That's a load of BS.
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