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08-06-2009, 07:19 AM
|  | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Jan 5th, 2007 Location: Hell's Outhouse, Ohio
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| | I don't watch any of the ESPN or Disney Junk. Drop emm. If it means a lower bill I'm all for it. If I want to watch hockey I watch NHLCI and I pay for it. I don't expect my neighbor to cover my expense.
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08-06-2009, 09:34 AM
|  | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Oct 8th, 2004 Location: Huntingdon TN
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Originally Posted by Sileny Jizda  I don't watch any of the ESPN or Disney Junk. Drop emm. If it means a lower bill I'm all for it. If I want to watch hockey I watch NHLCI and I pay for it. I don't expect my neighbor to cover my expense. | We don't have ale cart yet. So just dropping the channels (and these are popular channels) should not be an option. If Dish dropped ESPN or any of the Disney channels, there would be a HUGE uproar which would incur more subscriber loss. And Dish can't afford that at all. Dish needs to keep the sports channels they currently have if they want to keep customers. Many have left Dish for DirecTV (even cable!) over the lack of PPV sports tiers (including myself). So why am I commenting? Because I started as a satellite customer with Dish. I like Dish. I hope to be back someday. So I want Dish to get back on their feet to be on par if not better than DirecTV as they once were (that would be good for DirecTV as well).
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08-06-2009, 01:07 PM
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I don't ever see DISH being on par with DIRECTV on sports as long as Charlie is running it. He is way to cheap to pay the price they want on the most wanted sports packs. Not that I really care , because I don't watch sports.
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08-06-2009, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jlo first of all, its childish to bicker in front of everyone.
second, dish spend 6 million dollars a month sending out bills. please, whats one million dollars to DISNEY??????!!!! they probably spent one million dollars replacing the tires on the cars in the background of their latest children's series. | "most favored nation" clauses are very very common in business. Probably the most common lawsuit between parties who do sizeable businees with each other. I'd be willing to bet this has NOTHING to do with the $1m (because you're right, $1m is nothing to either company). This is all about the next contract and ensuring that there is some leverage on the E* side (ie we'll drop the lawsuit if you give us x).
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08-06-2009, 01:39 PM
| | SatelliteGuys Regular | | Join Date: Oct 8th, 2004 Location: Huntingdon TN
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Originally Posted by MikeD-C05 I don't ever see DISH being on par with DIRECTV on sports as long as Charlie is running it. He is way to cheap to pay the price they want on the most wanted sports packs. Not that I really care , because I don't watch sports. | I was on the Dish website today and I was a little surprised at how much they are going after DirecTV ( here and here).The only sport I care about is MLB. But if you want NFL Sunday Ticket, the Dish Website says that they will NEVER get that because they would have to raise everybody's price to do it like DirecTV does (they claim). If that's true that everybody pays for these PPV sports tiers whether they subscribe to them or not, then I don't blame Dish. But it does lock out a large group out of potential Dish customers who want sports. One thing Dish NEEDS to do though is revamp their advertising campaign. DirecTV kicks their butt in advertising.
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08-06-2009, 03:20 PM
| | SatelliteGuys Junkie | | Join Date: Jan 21st, 2004
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As long as we are trying to get the facts straight, can we change the title of this thread, please? Quote: |
Charlie Ergen's satellite broadcaster, Dish Network, a unit of EchoStar, has filed a breach of contract suit against Walt Disney Co.'s cable sports behemoth ESPN.
| Dish Network sues ESPN.
Disney does not control negotiation rights for ESPN; ESPN does their own negotiations. Hearst, which owns 20 percent of ESPN, does not do negotiations for ESPN, either. ESPN handles the negotiations for their own properties.
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08-06-2009, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MLBurks I was on the Dish website today and I was a little surprised at how much they are going after DirecTV ( here and here).The only sport I care about is MLB. But if you want NFL Sunday Ticket, the Dish Website says that they will NEVER get that because they would have to raise everybody's price to do it like DirecTV does (they claim). If that's true that everybody pays for these PPV sports tiers whether they subscribe to them or not, then I don't blame Dish. But it does lock out a large group out of potential Dish customers who want sports. One thing Dish NEEDS to do though is revamp their advertising campaign. DirecTV kicks their butt in advertising. | Oh yeah, they definitely need to FIRE the Brady Bunch /Patridge Family advertising agency.
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08-06-2009, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg Bimson As long as we are trying to get the facts straight, can we change the title of this thread, please?
Dish Network sues ESPN.
Disney does not control negotiation rights for ESPN; ESPN does their own negotiations. Hearst, which owns 20 percent of ESPN, does not do negotiations for ESPN, either. ESPN handles the negotiations for their own properties. | Details, details... 
Very fair point.
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08-06-2009, 10:51 PM
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It's even better than that... Quote: |
Charlie Ergen's satellite broadcaster, Dish Network, a unit of EchoStar, has filed a breach of contract suit against Walt Disney Co.'s cable sports behemoth ESPN.
| DISH is Dish Network. SATS is EchoStar. Dish Network is not a unit of EchoStar.
It may be in the details, but it is what it is. DISH isn't unhappy with Disney and the Disney channels are negotiated separately from the ESPN suite. But SATS (EchoStar) has nothing to do with that, either.
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08-06-2009, 11:31 PM
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Who the hell cares about the title of the thread...
Legal-eagles should worry less about 'words' and 'more' about substance...
The thread content speaks for itself. Read it. Enjoy it. Its there for you...
bon appetite.
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