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11-26-2009, 11:43 AM
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| | two other small differences - i know the first affects some.
Con - there is an offical limit on leased tuners (4, i believe = 2 * 662/722) -Owned you can add more.
Pro - When you need to upgrade and are leasing , you dont have hardware to store/recycle you just return it.
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11-26-2009, 02:11 PM
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No commitment is reason why I buy my equipment.
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11-27-2009, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Haller I ONLY BUY, if they forced me to lease I will cancel.
Over the years I have upgraded hard drives, you cant do that when leased
by the time you take time off work for installation, and pay the upgrade fee. lease is a loser for me.
i enjoy doing wiring upgrading etc | AFAIK, no one is forced to lease, but rather forced to buy. Buying the boxes is GREAT for Dish because you have just saved them lots of acquisition costs, so buyers are beloved. However, if one wants to add more boxes than the lease program allows, then you must buy.
Buying is very bad for the average consumer, but for the affluent who have the $$ and knowledge for modifications, it's "price is no object". However, you can get the first few boxes leased and buy the remaining. This will give you a path to upgrading to the latest boxes, like the 922, without having to make an initial cash investment to buy and own the first box. Buying the 922 is going to be for those who have no money problems.
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11-27-2009, 07:28 AM
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E leases because as leased equiptement it can be carried on their books as a depreciable asset. beancounter smoke and mirrors magic. makes E look more profitable.
leased boxes less likely to be tampered with
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11-27-2009, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Smith, P. If you'll look on my pictures with modifications, you'll know why owning is better. Check eBay - 622 are pretty cheap and if you'll buy approved Seagate 500 GB disk, your 622 will be like 722. | What kind of modifications do you do? Cooling? Just curious. I own one and didn't really know there was much to do to it. I have been thinking about changing that noisy fan.
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11-27-2009, 09:28 AM
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Don't forget another benifit of buying is
If you have 5 or more rooms of service.
E* will Not lease more then 4 rooms of service.
Not Tuners !!, ROOMS.
You can lease 4 VIP 612's .Thats 8 tuners. But that still only serves 4 rooms.
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11-27-2009, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by cditty What kind of modifications do you do? Cooling? Just curious. I own one and didn't really know there was much to do to it. I have been thinking about changing that noisy fan. | Expand internal disk or/and make a few of them for swap.
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11-27-2009, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Smith, P. Expand internal disk or/and make a few of them for swap. | I just bought a new 722k and have not activated it yet, is there a advantage to copying virgin info from the drive to make replacement easier, or is it not a issue like the 5xx series?
sorry to hi-jack thread...lol
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11-27-2009, 05:18 PM
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lease them and get DDA to save money on the fees. be aware as well that this rcvr can do external hard drive recording, so you wont need to own it to get a drive to hold more
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11-27-2009, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by the mack I just bought a new 722k and have not activated it yet, is there a advantage to copying virgin info from the drive to make replacement easier, or is it not a issue like the 5xx series?
sorry to hi-jack thread...lol | Not to worry - any approved disk will formatted automatically.
Hope in new FW they will add functionality of already approved 1TB disks.
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