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11-29-2009, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by peano  The OP is talking about the internal drive in the 622 - not the EHD. Just any drive won't work.
The Seagate is the only one I found recently from the list but its sold out from where I bought it. | Ok, I'll bite. Why won't a higher grade drive work thats rated for higher transfer rates and continuous use? The Scorpio blacks are used in high end SATA raid arrays running workload such as Oracle and VMWare. It's difficult for me to believe that old technology (the 622 was released 2-3 years ago) can't be upgraded with new technology that has higher specs than the old one.
I'm not arguing or doubting you, just curious.
I had a VMWare array that I bought 8 WD Green drives because I bought the Green 'thing' and the overall specs were close to the Black edition and wanted to save ten (literally the difference between the drives) bucks each. End result, VMWare ran like a pig in quicksand. I replaced them all with the same exact size of the Black edition and now the servers are blazing fast! Anyone want some 650G Green drives?  I have them stacked up in their original bags.
The Scorpio Blacks are what EMC and Netapp use in their SAN devices after they run their certification process on them. I've been told that only 4% don't make it for one reason or the other (outside heat specs, mean time flush cache and park, etc). At work I have EMC SANS that have SAS and SATA DAE's. All the 7200 RPM SATA DAE's use the WD drives. I must admit though, that I've yet to figure out how their testing and certification makes a $100 drive a $1800 drive? Marketing, go figure.
Ok.. I'll give you that the ones we use at work are the 3.5" version but EMC, Equalogic and Netapp are all coming out with higher density versions of their SAN's with the 2.5" drives.
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11-29-2009, 11:14 AM
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The reason any old drive won't work, is that the firmware of the receiver will only recognize certain drives. If they are not in the list the receiver won't recognize it and boot up
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11-29-2009, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bookworm370 Ok, I'll bite. Why won't a higher grade drive work thats rated for higher transfer rates and continuous use? The Scorpio blacks are used in high end SATA raid arrays running workload such as Oracle and VMWare. It's difficult for me to believe that old technology (the 622 was released 2-3 years ago) can't be upgraded with new technology that has higher specs than the old one.
I'm not arguing or doubting you, just curious.
I had a VMWare array that I bought 8 WD Green drives because I bought the Green 'thing' and the overall specs were close to the Black edition and wanted to save ten (literally the difference between the drives) bucks each. End result, VMWare ran like a pig in quicksand. I replaced them all with the same exact size of the Black edition and now the servers are blazing fast! Anyone want some 650G Green drives? I have them stacked up in their original bags.
The Scorpio Blacks are what EMC and Netapp use in their SAN devices after they run their certification process on them. I've been told that only 4% don't make it for one reason or the other (outside heat specs, mean time flush cache and park, etc). At work I have EMC SANS that have SAS and SATA DAE's. All the 7200 RPM SATA DAE's use the WD drives. I must admit though, that I've yet to figure out how their testing and certification makes a $100 drive a $1800 drive? Marketing, go figure.
Ok.. I'll give you that the ones we use at work are the 3.5" version but EMC, Equalogic and Netapp are all coming out with higher density versions of their SAN's with the 2.5" drives. | You (as relatively newbie here) missed a lot of good info regarding internal disks of 622/722/612 models. Try to find old posts/threads by using a keyword 'approved' or take a look on mentioned Yahoo group.
Unfortunately, your long posts do not fit into the topic entirely.
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11-29-2009, 12:03 PM
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11-29-2009, 12:24 PM
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Smith,
You could have just answered the question nicely like Mark did and not flame me for being a newbie. You were once a newbie and I'm sure if people disrespected you, as you just did me, you would not have stuck around. Now, I have a reason to stick around if it's not just to find an error in one of your posts! 
And Mark, thank you for your courteous and mature post. I did not know that E* literally checks the drive identification. I guess Smith figures that anyone that knows less than him is useless.
Heaven help anyone that offers a suggestion here!
And Smith, sorry for my long post and that they offend you. I guess it's much different than your 6 worded 'unintelligible' posts. You do know, that if English is not your native language that there are very good translators out there like Babelfish so that people that actually understand and communicate in English can understand the 6 words you generally type as a response.
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11-29-2009, 12:35 PM
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The thread is not about our fight - you could by intelligent enough do not continue here. Using PM for venting could help readers here.
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11-29-2009, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bookworm370 Smith,
You could have just answered the question nicely like Mark did and not flame me for being a newbie. You were once a newbie and I'm sure if people disrespected you, as you just did me, you would not have stuck around. Now, I have a reason to stick around if it's not just to find an error in one of your posts!
And Mark, thank you for your courteous and mature post. I did not know that E* literally checks the drive identification. I guess Smith figures that anyone that knows less than him is useless.
Heaven help anyone that offers a suggestion here!
And Smith, sorry for my long post and that they offend you. I guess it's much different than your 6 worded 'unintelligible' posts. You do know, that if English is not your native language that there are very good translators out there like Babelfish so that people that actually understand and communicate in English can understand the 6 words you generally type as a response. | But then it would be P if he didn't answer the way he did. LOL See he used 10 words in the reply. He's almost getting chatty there.
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11-30-2009, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by KAB | Says instock but when I tried to get it it said out of stock.. Maybe I am slow. Thanks for trying though.
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11-30-2009, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by skyviewmark Says instock but when I tried to get it it said out of stock.. Maybe I am slow. Thanks for trying though. | Tiger Direct has a compatible drive for $55. Just ordered one for my 722 whose drive has died. WD Caviar 500GB Serial ATA HD 7200/8MB/SATA-3G at TigerDirect.com |
12-01-2009, 12:44 AM
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Time to cancel your order - hurry.
There are no APPROVED WD for sale.
Only from someone who removed the WD from 722 !
All approved WD are OEM, not for sale.
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