Thread: Uplink Activity 12/11/08 7:00 PM ET 19 changes Young GONE

Originally Posted by riffjim4069

...Personally, I would be more concerned about ALL SUBSCRIBERS having to shell-out $2-$3 for the the ESPN channels, even those who do not watch sports. Does this make any sense?

It makes no sense whatsoever. I'm an advocate of ala carte pricing so I can decide what I'm going to pay for. The content providers don't want it because it will kill their cash cow.



Mario

Looks like Time-Warner and WKRC (CBS) 12 are having a row in Cincinnati. TWC has warned us that WKRC will be removed on New Year's Eve exactly when the ball drops on times square if a deal isn't reached.

Except the costs associated with producing some of the most populars shows on television, along with local news, sports, etc.

Yadda, yadda, yadda!

This would be a great argument if the station werent providing the exact same program to anyone in the area with a rabbit ear antenna FOR FREE

I know the argument is that the cable and satellite companies are making money off the backs of the stations, but without the cable and satellite companies the station's potential audience would be smaller too. The question now becomes what is fair compensation. IMHO, any station that wishes to charge a single penny to anyone for ANY rebroadcasting of their signal WITHIN their DMA should have their license immediately yanked! You don't want to provide your signal to unserved viewers, you don't get to broadcast PERIOD!

See ya
Tony

Originally Posted by TNGTony

I know the argument is that the cable and satellite companies are making money off the backs of the stations, but without the cable and satellite companies the station's potential audience would be smaller too. The question now becomes what is fair compensation. IMHO, any station that wishes to charge a single penny to anyone for ANY rebroadcasting of their signal WITHIN their DMA should have their license immediately yanked! You don't want to provide your signal to unserved viewers, you don't get to broadcast PERIOD!

Exactly! If no one else is allowed to broadcast a particular network signal (say NBC for example) into that DMA, then the NBC station there had better do everything it can to get its signal to people stuck in that DMA, including allowing retransmission via satellite and cable.

If the stations don't want to make their broadcasts available, then distant networks must be allowed. Of course, that's logical, so no government agency would agree.

Originally Posted by VinceT3

I say give em the 30 cents per subscriber.

Another thing to keep in mind is that 30 cents can buy more than seven shares of Young broadcasting stock! Young is not a healthy company. Now is not a good time for them to be picking fights.


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Originally Posted by riffjim4069

Except the costs associated with producing some of the most populars shows on television, along with local news, sports, etc.

Some have poked holes in this argument by mentioning that the channels are available for Free via OTA. They also forgot to mention that the OTA bandwidth is provided to them for free by the government. So, these are licensed public utilitieis, not free-market competitors.

But, more importantly, these channels use their license as a club to prevent viewers from seeing any other affiliate of that network. Some local affiliates are only going to be forced to go stereo for the first time in February by the mandated digital transition. But they still won't allow viewers to watch HD 6 channel broadcasts of another channel showing the same program.

Because of that prohibition, national TV providers must provide 200 different affiliates showing the same programming.

In contrast, the "cable" channels that you are disparaging, only require one uplink for everyone in the country. That's a massive savings for the national TV providers (Dish and DirecTV), so it is all the more outrageous that the local channels want to charge us for using their federally-licensed club against us.

KRON IS GONE HURRARY!! I hope Young goes bye bye real soon.

Originally Posted by AriesGodofWar

Great, can we get Voom back with all the free space? I hope you Voom haters lost your locals........doesn't feel so great does it?

So did someone break your crayons?
Voom haters...Jeez. No satellite proivider is handling "Voom"....It's a dead issue. Move on, please...

Originally Posted by M Sparks

The only thing more pathetic than the people still obsessed with Voom are the people who are obsessed with the people who are still obsessed with Voom.

sounds like the credits at the end of Holy Grail....Those who are responsible have been sacked. Those responsible for sacking those who have been sacked have also been sacked.
Anyway. V##m issue is done.

Originally Posted by TNGTony

Looks like Time-Warner and WKRC (CBS) 12 are having a row in Cincinnati. TWC has warned us that WKRC will be removed on New Year's Eve exactly when the ball drops on times square if a deal isn't reached.



Yadda, yadda, yadda!

This would be a great argument if the station werent providing the exact same program to anyone in the area with a rabbit ear antenna FOR FREE

I know the argument is that the cable and satellite companies are making money off the backs of the stations, but without the cable and satellite companies the station's potential audience would be smaller too. The question now becomes what is fair compensation. IMHO, any station that wishes to charge a single penny to anyone for ANY rebroadcasting of their signal WITHIN their DMA should have their license immediately yanked! You don't want to provide your signal to unserved viewers, you don't get to broadcast PERIOD!

See ya
Tony

Could not have said it better..I'll further this.. If I am willing to pay for say a distant local, I should be able to view it. I can read a newspaper on the web from anywhere in the world. I can listen to thousands of radio stations on the web....But tv....oh no you don't, mr......In the not too distant future we'll be seeing all content, tv and radio on the internet.
I think that this ridiculous notion of bundling is what is restricting the expansion of DBS. And cable for that matter. The general consensus is that people do nopt like haviong to buy channels they do not nor will they ever watch. People want ot pick the servioces they wasnt to watch and pay only for those.
From my own view, I am unsympathetic to those who work for these rinky dink niche channels such as QVC.