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    Quote Originally Posted by cincyguy2k4 View Post
    Yeah I wasnt trying to be negative. When I called about it a couple weeks ago the rep was clueless.
    Reps dont know anything until after the signals are turned on and made available.

    Always remember the reps are the last to know ANYTHING.

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    I have struggled to get ABC WPTY 24 to come in with a strong OTA signal at my home for months. Adding this channel has made my day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradox-SJ View Post
    TRANSPONDER CHANGES

    CHANGE Tp 7 North California EchoStar 7 119w ,8PSK SR 21500 FEC 2/3
    TO Tp 7 North California EchoStar 7 119w ,8PSK SR 21500 FEC 5/6


    What does that mean exactly and does it have anything to do with this?


    Channel Additions:
    6442(4) - KRON [MPEG4 HD] added to EchoStar7 119W TP 07 North California beam (NA)(San Francisco, CA-MNT)
    Thanks for pointing that out.

    I was just about to say that the SF HD locals might get less bitrate as a result, BUT you pointed out that they have reduced the number of error bits on the transponder to compensate.

    So, they are using up 20% of the transponder for KRON, but they freed up 16.6% by using less error correction.

    So, each existing channel will only lose less than 1%, but Dish uses statistical multiplexing, so you would only see any difference in the unlikely scenario when 2 or 3 of the channels have a lot of movement at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski View Post
    Reps dont know anything until after the signals are turned on and made available.

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    Yep I agree. They do seem to know a little more on the web chat vs calling in. I don't know why that is. I have had great luck in my experiences with the web chat, I don't bother to call anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kstuart View Post
    Thanks for pointing that out.

    I was just about to say that the SF HD locals might get less bitrate as a result, BUT you pointed out that they have reduced the number of error bits on the transponder to compensate.

    So, they are using up 20% of the transponder for KRON, but they freed up 16.6% by using less error correction.

    So, each existing channel will only lose less than 1%, but Dish uses statistical multiplexing, so you would only see any difference in the unlikely scenario when 2 or 3 of the channels have a lot of movement at the same time.
    Thank you for the explanation...okay my next question is WHY KRON?

    They add an idependent that shows nothing when they could have added the CW that airs new content.

    I dont even have KRON in my guide...go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradox-SJ View Post
    Thank you for the explanation...okay my next question is WHY KRON?

    They add an idependent that shows nothing when they could have added the CW that airs new content.

    I dont even have KRON in my guide...go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradox-SJ View Post
    Thank you for the explanation...okay my next question is WHY KRON?

    They add an independent that shows nothing when they could have added the CW that airs new content.

    I don't even have KRON in my guide...go figure.

    Agreed why ADD THAT WORTHLESS STATION you knows the idiots who tried to blackmail dish. Guess they got KRON for free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcrown1 View Post
    Agreed why ADD THAT WORTHLESS STATION you knows the idiots who tried to blackmail dish. Guess they got KRON for free.
    What I thought was funny was back in Dec when Dish had the despute with Young Broadcasting and pulled KRON....they put up the link saying it was all Dish's fault. (
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    ) I didnt even know they were off the air if it werent for THIS site. They couldnt hold on to their NBC affiliation and just last week they filed for bankruptcy (
    TV station owner Young Broadcasting files Chp. 11 | Business news | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle


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    I regularly watch KRON 4 instead of KTVU and CBS 5. Ya they dont air new content but sometimes its nice to get the news from a different source in HD.

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