Thread: 2/8/2010 9:46pm - Uplink Activity Report - 34 changes

Originally Posted by sundude90

Thanks for the info. Should I have dish upgrade me or should I just wait for 61.5 to have these new channels??

Josh

You need to decide how important these particular channels are for you to answer that.

Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski

The issue there is if they put them on 119 then people will expect them to remain there. You would be surprised how many people only get 110/119 and not 129 or 61.5. When they got the issues fixed at 61.5 and removed the channels off of 119 there would be massive complaints.

But complaints from people with a bastard setup wouldn't be valid complaints.

Why is there, as you claim, a large number of people paying for HD when they can't get most of the HD channels if they aren't using 129 or 61.5? I must be missing something.

On the other hand, if 110/110/61.5 is no longer a valid setup (yes, I know you said they'd be moving the channels eventually, I'm making a point here), they should automatically and for free retrofit everyone with EA dishes. (Although that wouldn't work either til they fix the problem with the Scranton locals not covering the whole DMA!)

But playing devils advocate here Jim how many folks used these "bastard setups" (110/119/61.5) due to the fact that Echo 5 was a POS and folks had to decide
-do I get one dish and have dropouts and everything because the sat is junk? OR
-put up a 2nd dish and be able to see the HD I PAY for and not have any issues (weather being the exception)

Lots of folks with these setups have been customers way before EA. Hell how many of these long term folks had these setups because at the time Dish could "split" the customers locals across 2 sats. (remember that)??
The Big 4 or a few more on 110/119 and the "others" on 61.5? When I was a customer that is how Minneapolis was. Sure its been a few years now but lots off folks just kept the dishes how they should be and just swapped out receivers or LNB's when they upgraded.

Originally Posted by Skyhi

What they're doing to 61.5 customers is absolute BS. It's an amateur move by an enormous company. It's almost unbelievable.......

A satellite failure is a mitigating factor that could get them out of any breach scenario if the channels aren't launched by the date in the contract. I doubt that it would even come to that as the content providers are not going to waste their time, money, and "goodwill" with E* by pursuing legal remedies over a minor delay that resulted from a tech failure over which E* had no control.


* I am NOT a 61.5 customer.

It's not as clear cut as this. Maybe if there wasn't any other capacity on any other Dish satellite, then Dish could show impossibility. But mere impracticability wouldn't necessarily save them from being in breach. But it ultimately comes down to the contracts that are in place. I doubt anyhow here is privy to those.

Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski

The issue there is if they put them on 119 then people will expect them to remain there. You would be surprised how many people only get 110/119 and not 129 or 61.5. When they got the issues fixed at 61.5 and removed the channels off of 119 there would be massive complaints.

This one is a damned if they do, damned if t hey dont thing.

I find this one hard to swallow. How many people can possibly be paying for HD and not have 61.5 or 129? Talk about a waste- anyone with that setup is throwing away money. Not to mention, would Dish even allow someone to add HD with sending out an installer to add the appropriate main dish? It'd probably be much more reasonable to put everything on 119 temporarily and then add 129/61.5 dishes to those missing them before the transfer to 61.5 and 119 shuffle. Then no one would get so aggravated and the out of pocket cost couldn't be too high. (I can't believe there are that many people who sub to HD and should get these channels without a 61.5/129 dish.)

Originally Posted by dangue

I find this one hard to swallow. How many people can possibly be paying for HD and not have 61.5 or 129? Talk about a waste- anyone with that setup is throwing away money. Not to mention, would Dish even allow someone to add HD with sending out an installer to add the appropriate main dish? It'd probably be much more reasonable to put everything on 119 temporarily and then add 129/61.5 dishes to those missing them before the transfer to 61.5 and 119 shuffle. Then no one would get so aggravated and the out of pocket cost couldn't be too high. (I can't believe there are that many people who sub to HD and should get these channels without a 61.5/129 dish.)

I have 129, but the only channel in this uplink I'll probably get is Showtime West. The others will not be in the Alaska HD package because they're not on an Alaska spot beam. If they left them on 119 they would probably add them to the Alaska HD package and Alaska and Hawaii could watch them. Most of the customers in Alaska have a small dish and all they can receive are the channels on the spot beams. I have a six foot dish and could watch them if they were added, but they won't and all I'll see is red in the guide unless there is a free preview.

I'm hoping when the new sat goes up that will change.

The "truth" to this whole mess is that charlie is saving money by only "offering" these channels to a limited amount of customers (He pays per sub). He gets to keep the 61.5 sub's money in his pocket

Originally Posted by juan

The "truth" to this whole mess is that charlie is saving money by only "offering" these channels to a limited amount of customers (He pays per sub). He gets to keep the 61.5 sub's money in his pocket

Obviously Juan, "You can't handle the truth!"

Originally Posted by satjay

Going to sound like an idiot here. But my dish is the one with the "Turbo HD" logo on it. Am I ok for the upcoming channels?

I would think that that antenna would be a 1000.4 so, you are fine. When you look at the dish, from the back is it pointing toward the east? If so I am sure you are fine. You are most likely on eastern arc.