Thread: 2/8/2010 9:46pm - Uplink Activity Report - 34 changes

Maybe I am over simplifying this whole thing but..... I called for an install in 2007, they said if I wanted HD I had to get 61.5 because the 129 setup(old 129) was not an option in my area. They said this is what I needed for HD. Now we on 61.5 are told " no new HD for you" unless you pay. Bottom line, they installed what was needed,not my choice. I am at 61.5 because that is where they put me. Why should I be punished for that? My bill will be the same as the 129 folks in my area and they get HD locals on top of that...I do not! Defend Dish all you want but these facts seem simple enough to me.

There are a lot of those "bastard setups" around here. Lots of people who got HD but still have one or more secondary MPEG2 receivers, and the market initially had HD locals only on EA.

Quick and dirty solution for us seems to be add another dish for either 129 or 72.7. At one time I was able to get 129 on my ghetto superdish500 but last time I tried it was unsatisfactory. I'll go repossess the inlaw's 61.5 dish I installed back then, they have a 1000.2 and the stuff they need is on 129 now anyway.

Originally Posted by Iceberg

Lots of folks with these setups have been customers way before EA. Hell how many of these long term folks had these setups because at the time Dish could "split" the customers locals across 2 sats. (remember that)??

Yup, except I've been a customer even longer than that! I originally installed my wing dish for international programming. Yes, it was semi-useless for a couple of years before I went HD. I even used it to subscribe my mother to Sky Angel for a year or two before they went terrestrial.

Originally Posted by rhdj

Maybe I am over simplifying this whole thing but..... I called for an install in 2007, they said if I wanted HD I had to get 61.5 because the 129 setup(old 129) was not an option in my area. They said this is what I needed for HD. Now we on 61.5 are told " no new HD for you" unless you pay. Bottom line, they installed what was needed,not my choice. I am at 61.5 because that is where they put me. Why should I be punished for that? My bill will be the same as the 129 folks in my area and they get HD locals on top of that...I do not! Defend Dish all you want but these facts seem simple enough to me.

You do realize that Dish hasn't done anything yet? I mean opinions are fine but we should at least wait for the deed to be done before complaining.

That said, and assuming that these channels are not available to those of us with the 110/119/61.5 setup, I would only cut Dish some slack in this if this was an unavoidable action due to unexpected circumstances. There has been no evidence presented that this is the case; even if 61.5 won't handle the stations one option would appear to be putting them on 110/119 temporarily.

Regardless, we don't have control over what Dish does. And it appears that Dish may be saying to those of us with 61.5s "what are you going to do about it, leave"? So all we have control over is what we do.

Originally Posted by rhdj

Maybe I am over simplifying this whole thing but..... I called for an install in 2007, they said if I wanted HD I had to get 61.5 because the 129 setup(old 129) was not an option in my area. They said this is what I needed for HD. Now we on 61.5 are told " no new HD for you" unless you pay. Bottom line, they installed what was needed,not my choice. I am at 61.5 because that is where they put me. Why should I be punished for that? My bill will be the same as the 129 folks in my area and they get HD locals on top of that...I do not! Defend Dish all you want but these facts seem simple enough to me.

I'm sure I paid more than you to get my system setup($750 just to plant the six foot dish) and I get less HD than you do now, hopefully we'll both get the same amount of HD once the new sat goes up and they move things around. I don't remember Dish promising me that I would get every HD channel that they air, I would like them and I'm sure once they have the space I will.

What if the order of events had been:

- Dish puts new channels on 129 and 61.5
- 61.5 satellite has failure of several transponders

Most would then be saying " Wow, unavoidable disaster. " and would be appreciative of whatever steps Dish would have taken to mitigate the effect.

In this case, what Dish is doing is:

- Moving a satellite over to take over the load
- Making the channels available on a different slot, so if any channel is important to you, you can swing a dish over to there.

PS I am glad that no one has agreed with the guy who stated the creepy perspective - "If I can't have them, no one should have them".

Originally Posted by kstuart

PS I am glad that no one has agreed with the guy who stated the creepy perspective - "If I can't have them, no one should have them".

The more you get the more I have to look forward to!

Originally Posted by kstuart

PS I am glad that no one has agreed with the guy who stated the creepy perspective - "If I can't have them, no one should have them".

If you're referring to me, you're putting words in my mouth, and I'm going to have to ask you to stop.

I never said that noone should have them. I said that they should either wait til they could be put on 61.5, or automatically and without charge upgrade everyone to EA. What's so difficult to comprehend about that? I did not at any point say that they shouldn't add channels.

Originally Posted by kstuart

What if the order of events had been:

- Dish puts new channels on 129 and 61.5
- 61.5 satellite has failure of several transponders

Most would then be saying " Wow, unavoidable disaster. " and would be appreciative of whatever steps Dish would have taken to mitigate the effect.

In this case, what Dish is doing is:

- Moving a satellite over to take over the load
- Making the channels available on a different slot, so if any channel is important to you, you can swing a dish over to there.

PS I am glad that no one has agreed with the guy who stated the creepy perspective - "If I can't have them, no one should have them".

I'm certainly not saying that. I just think their should be some kind of compensation.

When I signed up for Dish HD in 2006, I had no idea what a Dish 1000 was to request one. They showed up and put a wing dish up there. Heck, it is mounted in such a way that I doubt I could just repoint it to 129. The 110/119 dish is in the way.

I'd be happy with a small bill credit or some free premiums for a few months, along with an acknowledgment that this isn't fair, and that they will fix it as soon as they get a sat at 61.5.