Thread: Notice of Tivo Injunction

Hi there!

The timing of this could not be worse.

I have a Dishplayer 7100 (yeah, I know ) that is on its final death-spiral, I think, since it's starting to power itself off and get into the "Connecting to WebTV" loop that requires a hard power cycle to clear.

To replace it I recently bought a Dish 921 receiver off of eBay (used -- I called Dish prior to purchase with the R00 and S00 numbers and it was clear). UPS claims they're delivering it Monday 9/21.

Now I wonder if Dish Network will activate it at all? It *was* activated prior to 4/18, but it's not currently activated since its previous owner replaced it to go to a multi-room setup.

I never subscribed to the PVR features on the 7100 (pause was free, but no scheduled recording, rewind, etc.). If they don't activate the PVR (and waive the ~$6 PVR fee) that'd be fine with me, as long as they activate the receiver. I'd love to get the PVR features (one of the reasons I chose a 921), and I'll gladly pay the PVR fee, but even if I can't have that for a while, that's okay as long as they turn the receiver on.

Those that stay will pay

Tastra

Originally Posted by jwvess00

I'd love to get the PVR features (one of the reasons I chose a 921), and I'll gladly pay the PVR fee, but even if I can't have that for a while, that's okay as long as they turn the receiver on.

A lot of DVRs can't show live TV with the hard drive disabled as is required by the injunction.

Since the court nor TiVo can't verify one way or the other the code is actually different outside of going through all of it line by line the things look to get turned off. Looks like I have to tell the ol lady when she gets home to start watching the carp that's on it now since there is no telling how long she has to watch it.

If the receiver can't be used with the hard drive yanked all the DVR owners are going to get hosed.

Why do you guys continue to bloviate after Jim posted this (Notice of Tivo Injunction)? It's obvious that Dish doesn't need to do anything right away, other than not to activate the 4 specific models. Those with existing activated receivers are also not (yet) affected.

Originally Posted by TheKrell

Why do you guys continue to bloviate after Jim posted this (Notice of Tivo Injunction)? It's obvious that Dish doesn't need to do anything right away, other than not to activate the 4 specific models. Those with existing activated receivers are also not (yet) affected.

Remember, it was Dish that said they didn't infringe and would win the jury trial.
It was Dish that said they would win the appeal.
It was Dish that said the patent office would rule TiVo's patents invalid.

None of that happened and you want to believe them now when they say they don't have to comply with the injunction?

The main thing is that stands out for me is that the DVR's listed are all MPEG2, as far as I know TIVO doesn't have and has never had a MPEG4 capable DVR.

NightRyder

Originally Posted by NightRyder

The main thing is that stands out for me is that the DVR's listed are all MPEG2, as far as I know TIVO doesn't have and has never had a MPEG4 capable DVR.

TiVo's patent doesn't mention a particular version of MPEG. It just says "MPEG". The models listed specifically in the injunction are all the models that existed at the time of the trial. Newer models are covered by the "not more than colorably different" phrase in the injunction.

Originally Posted by jwvess00

Hi there!

The timing of this could not be worse.

I have a Dishplayer 7100 (yeah, I know ) that is on its final death-spiral, I think, since it's starting to power itself off and get into the "Connecting to WebTV" loop that requires a hard power cycle to clear.

To replace it I recently bought a Dish 921 receiver off of eBay (used -- I called Dish prior to purchase with the R00 and S00 numbers and it was clear). UPS claims they're delivering it Monday 9/21.

Now I wonder if Dish Network will activate it at all? It *was* activated prior to 4/18, but it's not currently activated since its previous owner replaced it to go to a multi-room setup.

I never subscribed to the PVR features on the 7100 (pause was free, but no scheduled recording, rewind, etc.). If they don't activate the PVR (and waive the ~$6 PVR fee) that'd be fine with me, as long as they activate the receiver. I'd love to get the PVR features (one of the reasons I chose a 921), and I'll gladly pay the PVR fee, but even if I can't have that for a while, that's okay as long as they turn the receiver on.

you don't have to PVR is free for the 7100/7200 ( a few years ago they did try to charge but that was long time ago , call them up and tell the to turn DVR on its FREE ( by the way you can put 120 gb hd in there )