Thread: Notice of Tivo Injunction

Originally Posted by TWT

In 9 years of owning DVR's you are the only person I have ever seen that has mentioned a HD DirecTivo. I believe you are mistaken and that it never existed.

Your credibility just too a serious hit with this statement.


CES 2004 - CNET.com

The HD Tivo did exist! It just didn't last very long for all the reasons I just said!

Man, the things you don't know can fill a whole book!

Originally Posted by TWT

Hmmmm, what did two courts say?

They didn't use the word 'thievery'...

Lets see how many other wrong things you can say...

Since you had no clue the HD DirectTivo existed, anything you say is subject to question at this point...

Originally Posted by Derwin0

You can not say that you see no reason for non-infringement in court. You actually have to show infringement.

Since the hardware claim was rejected, the software code itself has to be shown to infringe. You can not say in a court of law that you see no reason for non-infringement without showing the infringement. Or does the concept of "proof" escape you?

You are stating the obvious. The court has said that all units that are not more than colorably different also have to have their hard drives disabled. If TIVO sees no sign that the new software is not more than colorably different and proves it just like they already proved the original and appeal case, then DISH is is is really serious trouble.

The hardware case can still be won under the doctrine of equivlents. I have read TIVO's opinion and they believe they willl win the hardware issue under the doctrine of equivlents. So do I.

Originally Posted by TWT

You are stating the obvious. The court has said that all units that are not more than colorably different also have to have their hard drives disabled. If TIVO sees no sign that the new software is not more than colorably different and proves it just like they already proved the original and appeal case, then DISH is is is really serious trouble.

The hardware case can still be won under the doctrine of equivlents. I have read TIVO's opinion and they believe they willl win the hardware issue under the doctrine of equivlents. So do I.

If the hardware actually exists...

Originally Posted by vampz26

If the hardware actually exists...

Lol, yeah, how does a Tivo backer on the scale that he seems to be, miss that?????

permanent injunction
n. a final order of a court that a person or entity refrain from certain activities permanently or take certain actions (usually to correct a nuisance) until completed. A permanent injunction is distinguished from a "preliminary" injunction which the court issues pending the outcome of a lawsuit or petition asking for the "permanent" injunction.


What does FINAL mean?

DISH must either comply with the injunction or reach a settlement with TiVo. There is no more that can be done for the listed DVR's.

Originally Posted by msmith198025

Lol, yeah, how does a Tivo backer on the scale that he seems to be, miss that?????

Indeed...the HD Tivo by Directv was arguably one of the finest Tivo products ever.

...and TWT was completely unaware of its existance...

Perhaps because of denial...after all, as fine as that product was, it represents the very testimony to Tivo's failure to innovate and died a premature death...it was a shame...

Originally Posted by Derwin0

Actually, ReplayTV launched in January 1999, 2 months before Tivo who launched in March 1999.

Every article I have every read on that subject says it is exactly opposite to what you state. This one took me only 30 seconds to find. Down the bottom it says Replay was a few months behind Tivo. I could dig up many more articles, as I have previously read dozens that say the same thing. But this point is not important to me because long ago I have already read tons of information that has proven to me that TIVO was first to market.


ReplayTV goes further upscale

Originally Posted by TWT

Every article I have every read on that subject says it is exactly opposite to what you state. This one took me only 30 seconds to find. Down the bottom it says Replay was a few months behind Tivo. I could dig up many more articles, as I have previously read dozens that say the same thing. But this point is not important to me because long ago I have already read tons of information that has proven to me that TIVO was first to market.


ReplayTV goes further upscale

Same sources that told you all about the HD DirecTivo I presume...

forget it...your crediblity is in the trashcan...

Everything you say is subject to question at this point...