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    What's Happening on the HD Channel Front?

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    So D* heavily promoted their HD channel capacity after their new satellite became operational, and yet over the past several months, have added extremely little in the way of new HD national channels.

    We got what, 4 new non-PPV national HD channels in the summer. And what, only 1 since then? Is that correct? And it was Fox News, which I didn't even bother to add to my Favorites list.

    I can't believe we are coming into December with so few additions. I thought we would have several more premium HD movie channels by now, as they are out there available for D* to carry.

    Are there any rumblings on this front?

    I know they've add more HD locals. I don't even use my D* HD locals, as I prefer to pick them up OTA.
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    I hate to do this, but I will anyway.
    There's a lengthy thread on DBSTalk about this subject.

    Why Is Directv Forgetting About The Premium Channel Subscribers? - DBSTalk.Com



    One of many.

    I believe DirecTV will offer more HD once the proper agreements are signed.

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    Unfortunately, there is not much happening. Everything that we've heard indicates a couple national HDs in December, a couple in January. I know MLB network will be added Jan 1, but there is little solid speculation on what the others may be.

    They are still focussed on adding HD locals, but that is going to slow down for a month or two as well. There are only a few markets scheduled to launch in Dec/Jan.

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    Last i've heard was for around turkey day.. what happened with that ?

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    Followed the links in that DBStalk thread. I had no idea that Verizon had moved so far ahead of D* in HD channels. Now if Verizon has seriously compromised HD quality, I wouldn't consider that a good tradeoff.

    It is just that I had thought D* had gotten serious about HD. I guess I was wrong.

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    I dont think its channel agreements or any of that... I personally think, that directv is being very very lazy at the moment. My thoughts are that they are waiting on echostar to launch new HD so they can fire back and say well we have more. Personally, why wait on charlie, crush him now, and forget about E*. Both sat providers said that they would have 150 by the end of the year, while its not over yet, Time is slowly ticking away. They actually should be adding HD now as people are buying high def sets for the holidays and for feb. Also, new birds are suppost to be launching in 09, and were getting close to those launches. With that said why not get rid of the few pay per views and launch real channels. Also while were at it what ever happened to all the test channels like outdoor HD and PBS HD? Where the hell is my pbs in HD that you signed that agreement with way back when.

    You know, this one from last year!


    The DIRECTV Group, Inc. - DIRECTV to Carry Public Television Stations in HD




    You know the one that roll out was suppost to start in 08. Were almost to 09 where the hell is it at?

    Also in febuary they are going to raise our rates like they do every year, unless they have froze them.

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    Aside from the obvious channels that are available that D* isn't carrying has anyone heard any news about new HD channel launches ?

    BBC America, Comedy Central and a few others were supposed to be online before the end of the year but it seems the announcements have gone cold.

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    Bob, I have to agree with you that it is not all about contracts. Besides PBS doesn't Directv already have a contract for all the HBO and Cinamax channels that was announced in September of last year?

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    Since D11 launched this year all D* has done with it for national HD channels is give us MPEG4 versions of the old MPEG2 HD channels, added 6 new national HD channels (ABC Family, Planet Green HD, Crime Scene and Investigation HD, Fox News HD, Showtime Extreme HD and Showtime Showcase HD) converted some part time RSNs to full time and a gazillon HD PPVs.

    To me that is very disappointing. While the conversion of the old HD channels is appreciated, to only add 6 new channels while there are over 40 currently available channels is pitiful.

    I think since Malone and Liberty took ownership of D*, they have gone down hill. Some people warned everybody to the poor way Malone has run TV providers before and he seems to have done the same to D*.

    D* has capacity left on D11 to add more channels and are suppose to launch D12 late next year but what is the point. They have capacity that they aren't even using so they shouldn't waste their time and money launching D12.

    HDTVTechno, you're right, satelliteracer did say a few weeks ago that some would be coming around Thanksgiving but he has since changed his tune to now say December/January. However, apparently people are now longer allowed to speak to the great and sacred SatelliteRacer even though he is just a D* employee who is trying to calm down angry subscribers who are disappointed with how D* is progressing.

    The D* apologists are full of excuses. Contracts ("takes two to tango") or technical or concentrating on locals are the normal excuses. However, if you look at the facts you'll see that is just BS. Other providers have come to terms with some of the missing channels, like ESPNU, Travel, Encore and HBO/Max so that proves that deals can be made. But instead D* has taken a penny pinching approach or as Bob says a lazy approach. The main excuse you hear about the missing HBO/Max channels is that D* is working on technical issues so that they can deliver the newer MPEG4 delivered HBO/Max channels without any kind of conversion. But that is BS too because FiOS, E* and U-Verse have all been delivering some of the newer MPEG4 HBO/Max channels. So if those providers can do it why can't D*? And last year D* was able to add both national and local HDs so why can't they do it now.

    However, for all my complaints about D* they are still my best bet and I'm stuck with them for better or worse although lately it's been more worse than better. My local TWC has far fewer HD channels than D*. FiOS will never come to my area because we are getting the lesser of the two IPTVs, U-Verse. U-Verse's limited number of video streams to the house aren't enough for me. I currently have 9 tuners active (4 HD) in my house. Also E* limits the number of tuners that can be leased. That prevents me from going to E* since I don't want the extra cost needed to buy the extra receivers that can't be leased. I also don't like the way E* implements the dual room DVRs. The shared tuners and hard drives I find limiting. I rather have 2 hard drives and 4 tuners for two rooms instead.

    As far as the threads over at DBSTalk ("D11 disappointment" and "D* forgetting premium subscribers") those threads just annoy the crap out of me. 95% of the people over there are D* lemmings (led by the staff) and if anybody dare criticizes D*, they jump on you like sharks in a feeding frenzy. I haven't posted there since August and I don't plan on anytime soon because of the way the lemmings over there treat dissent. As of today, I've logged out my account over there and I will never visit that web site again.
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