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12-02-2009, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by pete409 OTA HD is still the best! | Generally speaking yes, but that is not ALWAYS the case.
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12-03-2009, 11:21 AM
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I have had both DirecTV & Dish Network in the past 4 months. The PQ on both look outstanding when in HD. SD is for the birds.
I left Dish Network due to their not carrying my RSN RedSox/Celtics in HD all the time.
Dish does not have the bandwidth to do what they said they could do when I signed up -so after 10 months, I left them. DirecTV has been great for me. Dish Network was good to deal with too. Both have been fair to me.
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12-03-2009, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Fiachra I have had both DirecTV & Dish Network in the past 4 months. The PQ on both look outstanding when in HD. | | 
12-03-2009, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kbghdg | Care to elaborate?
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12-03-2009, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by raoul5788 Care to elaborate? | I can't say anything about D* as i do not have it. But, i will say E* HD is about the same as watching an SDDVD being upconverted on a PS3. It's fairly obvious the poster that states both E* and D* have great PQ doesn't have a clue on what good satellite HD is and could be. If E* and D* would just pass the channels along as the programmers intended us to view them without compressing and degrading the picture further. I would be happy. Just look at what E* and D* did to SD. They made it look like crap. If you think they haven't compromised the HD either. Your wrong.
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12-04-2009, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kbghdg I can't say anything about D* as i do not have it. But, i will say E* HD is about the same as watching an SDDVD being upconverted on a PS3. It's fairly obvious the poster that states both E* and D* have great PQ doesn't have a clue on what good satellite HD is and could be. If E* and D* would just pass the channels along as the programmers intended us to view them without compressing and degrading the picture further. I would be happy. Just look at what E* and D* did to SD. They made it look like crap. If you think they haven't compromised the HD either. Your wrong. | What it really comes down to is if the viewer is happy with what they see. I was happy with what I saw. I don't have any other comparisons to go by regarding satellite so my view is limited to Dish/DirectTV I have to admit. Live and let live, live and learn. I learned something. Thanks.
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12-04-2009, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kbghdg I can't say anything about D* as i do not have it. But, i will say E* HD is about the same as watching an SDDVD being upconverted on a PS3. It's fairly obvious the poster that states both E* and D* have great PQ doesn't have a clue on what good satellite HD is and could be. If E* and D* would just pass the channels along as the programmers intended us to view them without compressing and degrading the picture further. I would be happy. Just look at what E* and D* did to SD. They made it look like crap. If you think they haven't compromised the HD either. Your wrong. | Most of the posts I have read say that Directv's hd is a bit better than Dish, but that's not my point. You do realize that ALL hd sources compress the signal to some extent, yes? It's how well it is handled that determines the quality. I remember when I first got my cband dish. I saw a Blue Jay game in sd that was so clear it would rival today's hd in many ways. Never the less, the hd we see today is still very good. If your hd picture is comparable to up-converted sd, then you have a problem unrelated to the signal itself. Something is wrong with your setup.
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12-04-2009, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by raoul5788 Most of the posts I have read say that Directv's hd is a bit better than Dish, but that's not my point. You do realize that ALL hd sources compress the signal to some extent, yes? It's how well it is handled that determines the quality. I remember when I first got my cband dish. I saw a Blue Jay game in sd that was so clear it would rival today's hd in many ways. Never the less, the hd we see today is still very good. If your hd picture is comparable to up-converted sd, then you have a problem unrelated to the signal itself. Something is wrong with your setup. | The problem with DISH is they use VBR (varible bit rate). So you can be watching one thing and it'll look good. And then flip over to something else and it looks bad. Like tonight EspnHD doesn't look good at all. But, by the time you read this it may have improved. | 
12-05-2009, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kbghdg I can't say anything about D* as i do not have it. But, i will say E* HD is about the same as watching an SDDVD being upconverted on a PS3. It's fairly obvious the poster that states both E* and D* have great PQ doesn't have a clue on what good satellite HD is and could be. If E* and D* would just pass the channels along as the programmers intended us to view them without compressing and degrading the picture further. I would be happy. Just look at what E* and D* did to SD. They made it look like crap. If you think they haven't compromised the HD either. Your wrong. | Bandwidth issues are the reason they cant do what you want here. They have to compress.
However, I agree with raoul. If your HD feed from either doesnt look any better than upconverted SD on a PS3, there is a problem somewhere in your setup that is not related to what D* or E* is sending out IMHO, and going off of my experience with sat HD vs PS3 upconverted DVDs.
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