New Software Updates Discussion Thread

**Geronimo** · 06-23-2008 05:38 PM

that possibilty exists with ANY change but it is by no means a certainty or even a likelihood that thsi oen would do that. Why do you single this requested feature for that that comment?

**Pepper** · 06-23-2008 06:24 PM

Well in adding the one feature for the mode popup, they created at least seven new bugs, namely changing the existing options 3-9 to 2-8, messing up anybody's memorized remote control keysequences. Not to mention deleting whatever 2 used to be and confusing anybody who was using that.

Messing up the FF modes is just a bonus.

**Smith, P.** · 06-23-2008 06:28 PM

"Messing up the FF modes is just a bonus."

**Geronimo** · 06-23-2008 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Pepper

Well in adding the one feature for the mode popup, they created at least seven new bugs, namely changing the existing options 3-9 to 2-8, messing up anybody's memorized remote control keysequences. Not to mention deleting whatever 2 used to be and confusing anybody who was using that.

Messing up the FF modes is just a bonus.

I am not sure I am following this pepper. Are you saying that moving menu items is a bug? The mode reminder is option 9 so I don't see how it interferes with any habits concerning the other numbered options----but maybe I just don't understand what you are referring to. Do you feel that any problems with FF was caused by this change? i am not sisputing you just asking what you are referring to.

**Pepper** · 06-23-2008 06:36 PM

Smith: I forgot to include the <sarcasm> tags but I figured you'd get that one.

Geronimo: I've seen comments from various people about moving the menu items. A real popular one one guy mentioned was Captioning on/off. Used to be Menu 8-8-1, now it's Menu 8-7-1. If somebody uses something a lot, and there's not a particularly easier way to get to the same place, then yes, to that person, changing what position it is on a menu is a bug. If they happened to have programmed a universal remote to emulate the keysequence, now the user has to go reprogram that too.

Dish removed what they percieved as the least-used option, renumbered everything after it, and added the new option at the bottom. It would have been better if they had just replaced the one option and left all the rest alone. And no, I doubt the menu code has anything to do with the broken FF, other than that they both were changed in the same release.

**Geronimo** · 06-23-2008 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Pepper

Smith: I forgot to include the <sarcasm> tags but I figured you'd get that one.

Geronimo: I've seen comments from various people about moving the menu items. A real popular one one guy mentioned was Captioning on/off. Used to be Menu 8-8-1, now it's Menu 8-7-1. If somebody uses something a lot, and there's not a particularly easier way to get to the same place, then yes, to that person, changing what position it is on a menu is a bug. If they happened to have programmed a universal remote to emulate the keysequence, now the user has to go reprogram that too.

Dish removed what they percieved as the least-used option, renumbered everything after it, and added the new option at the bottom. It would have been better if they had just replaced the one option 2 and left all the rest alone. And no, I doubt the menu code has anything to do with the broken FF, other than that they both were changed in the same release.

I guess I don't see the added option as causing the problem. but thanks for the explanation.

**J. Allen Head** · 06-25-2008 10:15 AM

I just noticed something in 511 i haven't seen before or read on here but i've only had it two days- i didn't receive 510 so it could have been on there then

If you click the menu button twice and then click next it goes to the setup remote 1 and click next again it goes to setup remote 2 - must be for the new remotes they haven't released yet 20 & 21 or something like that

**charlesrshell** · 06-25-2008 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by J. Allen Head

I just noticed something in 511 i haven't seen before or read on here but i've only had it two days- i didn't receive 510 so it could have been on there then

If you click the menu button twice and then click next it goes to the setup remote 1 and click next again it goes to setup remote 2 - must be for the new remotes they haven't released yet 20 & 21 or something like that

WOW, good catch Allen Head. Hope someone knows something about this.