Self install help please!

**bhelms** · 11-17-2009 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by WizeGuyDezignz

I'm very sorry for the noob-ness but I don't understand. What do you mean by take TV 2 out and backfeed the existing cable plant?

The output to the remote TV is labeled "TV2" on a dual tuner receiver. You could connect that into a whole-house RF distribution system ("plant"). I think that is what Bob is saying...

**WizeGuyDezignz** · 11-17-2009 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by bhelms

I missed that part. You'll have to cut them off and replace them with quality male connectors. Use the "compression" type connectors. That requires a special tool which will come with instructions. (You can buy the tool and correct connectors at a store like Lowes or perhaps Home Depot.) You can also by a tool to strip the ends of the coax properly before putting the connector on.

Hmmm - Why would any installation have female connectors on the ends of cables? (Are we missing something here ??)

I was wondering the same thing! I have no idea why they are female. Anybody have ideas?

**mjstraw** · 11-18-2009 11:02 AM

gender of connectors for coax can be confusing and I may still be confused :-) but think of it based on the _threads_. The connector on the back of a TV is male. An RF81 barrel connector is M/M. The connector usually found on the end of a piece of RG6 is female.

One might be tempted to assign gender based on how the center connector looks
or connects - which is exactly the opposite of what it really is.

Mark

**bhelms** · 11-18-2009 11:55 AM

Just the opposite of what I believe is true. It's the "stinger" (coax center conductor protruding from the male connector) and what that's inserted into in my mind that indicates the gender, and I always considered an F-81 a F/F adapter. So the cable is usually terminated with a male connector. I would have said "always" but the OP might have a different situation ??

But maybe I've been wrong for the past 30+ years ??

To the OP - is it possible you have cables terminated with (what I call) male connectors and each one is screwed into an F-81 F/F barrel ??

**Bradtothebone** · 11-18-2009 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by mjstraw

gender of connectors for coax can be confusing and I may still be confused :-) but think of it based on the _threads_. The connector on the back of a TV is male. An RF81 barrel connector is M/M. The connector usually found on the end of a piece of RG6 is female.

One might be tempted to assign gender based on how the center connector looks
or connects - which is exactly the opposite of what it really is.

Mark

Sorry, mjstraw, but everything in this post is wrong (except "I may still be confused")! Gender is not based on the threads, but upon the signal conductor.

To the O.P., are you sure the "splitter" you refer to (on one of the lines from the dish) isn't a diplexer? That would make sense if the original installation was using a downfeed from the dish to backfeed the second room from a dual-tuner receiver. There would, of course, have to be a second diplexer at the receiver.

Brad

edit: Bhelms, you beat me to it!

**mjstraw** · 11-18-2009 12:58 PM

Thanks for the correction - see, I said I was still confused.

Years of plumbing/electronics have imprinted my mind with "it's the threads". I remember trying to associate "opposite" with coax connectors which is true - except it's the opposite of "other stuff" (threads), not the opposite of intuition (stinger et al) which makes it back to "normal". No wonder I confuse myself. So much for memory aids.

Mark

PS - do they make a female F connector for attaching to the end of coax? I've never seen one.

**Bobby** · 11-18-2009 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by mjstraw

Thanks for the correction - see, I said I was still confused.

Years of plumbing/electronics have imprinted my mind with "it's the threads". I remember trying to associate "opposite" with coax connectors which is true - except it's the opposite of "other stuff" (threads), not the opposite of intuition (stinger et al) which makes it back to "normal". No wonder I confuse myself. So much for memory aids.

Mark

PS - do they make a female F connector for attaching to the end of coax? I've never seen one.

Yes, it's call a barrel connector... It actually is inserted into the regular f connector.

RadioShack Gold Series F-Connector Coupler - RadioShack.com

**mjstraw** · 11-18-2009 02:14 PM

I know about those - I was asking about a female connector that attached directly to the raw coax. Don't know what you'd ever use it for.....

Mark

**Bradtothebone** · 11-18-2009 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by mjstraw

PS - do they make a female F connector for attaching to the end of coax? I've never seen one.

I don't think so - it would be difficult to terminate, and there wouldn't be much use for it. People just use barrel connectors, as bobby said.

Brad

**DishSubLA** · 11-19-2009 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by bhelms

Any dual tuner receiver/DVR can service 2 locations with independent control of what is being watched in each location. Yes, you can use that cable currently going to the office to move over to the bedroom assuming it's long enough. RG6 is preferred but even RG59 will work for that simple connection. These receivers all have a coax (RF) output for the remote location TV.

What you need to do with those 2 cables from the LNBs is totally dependent on which combination of LNBs you have, per the pdf on the D1000. Let's assume it's a "standard configuration" in which case you only need to connect them to the 2 sat. tuner inputs on the back of the 522. Try that first. If it doesn't work then either you don't have the standard complement of LNBs (and might then need the switch) or something is disconnected or otherwise not working.

If you indeed have the D1000.2, you can google "Dish 1000.2" and get the information for that one. Here is some information from Sadoun, one of our site sponsors:

Dish Network Dish 1000.2* DishPro Plus 110 118.7 119 129

I'm not sure if the D1000.2 is a match for the 522 without a separate switch. The above link has another link to the installation guide and that talks about using a "separator" (completly different from a splitter) to feed the 2 tuner inputs with a single coax coming from the LNBs. But the separator is "Dish Pro" technology and I don't think that includes the 522 ?? Can someone else chime in on this? But if you add a switch then you can use 2 of its outputs to feed the 2 inputs of the 522 via separate coaxes. If your 1000.2 has the "single LNB" then it will not work with the DP34 switch; you'd have to use the DPP44.

Let us know how you make out, and good luck...!

I know what you meant, but I think it is important to point that the 612 does not provide a separate, independent TV 2 experience. The 612 works like the old 721: RF Ch 3 or 4 output will display the very same thing as in room with DVR, but no PIP with the 612.