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    722k W/OTA module recording conflicts

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    I have a 722K with an OTA module in single mode shared view.

    I have read that people are able to record up to 4 progs at once. 2 OTA and 2 Sat. I am not, if I set more than 2 I get recording conflicts, also if I have 2 recording going and try to watch a program on sat I get a message that the recording will be canceled. one other thing, I can't get PIP to function don't know if that's related or not...

    do I need to configure something differently or was I misinformed

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    2 ota and 2 sat is correct.

    my 722K drops into dual mode occasionally for no apparent reason......

    which screws up recoding so many.

    theres also a preference is single mode to always first record to tuner 2 so tuner one is free to watch live and other stuff.

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    Dual Mode

    Are you in dual mode (or in this case maybe should be called duel mode)? PIP won't work in dual. All the conflicts sound like this is your setting.

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    nope it's set for single shared mode

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    Sg,

    One possible reason for conflicts is if you have not changed the default settings for your timers. By Default Dish starts a timer event BEFORE its scheduled start and ENDS it after the scheduled ending of event. This will cause multiple conflicts if you have back to back recording events, causing many timers to NOT fire.

    I changed the default settings to NOT start early and NOT end Late. I decided to live with missing 30 seconds or so from a Show once in a while so I don't have lots and lots of Timer Conflicts.

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    shouldn't be a timer conflict, I get a conflicts if I try to record any combination of more than 2 programs on any of the tuners.

    the other night I had 2 shows set to record off OTA and tried to set a program to record off sat and got a conflict??? both the sat tuners should have been free to watch or record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg010 View Post
    shouldn't be a timer conflict, I get a conflicts if I try to record any combination of more than 2 programs on any of the tuners.

    the other night I had 2 shows set to record off OTA and tried to set a program to record off sat and got a conflict??? both the sat tuners should have been free to watch or record.
    SG,

    Did you read my post? Have you looked at the default Settings for your timers?

    If you have NOT changed your receivers default settings for all Timer events you will have multiple timer conflicts, as the Default settings to start early and end late will cause back to back timers to conflict resulting in the timer conflict screen and or a second event in a back to back recording event to fail to record, or no tuners free to record events.

    Example You are recording an event on one of your Local OTA channels from 7pm to 8pm and wish to record two events at 8pm on two local OTA channels. One event at 8pm will not record as the Timer from from 7pm to 8pm will run past its 8pm schedule end due to the default setting to end 2 minutes late, and remember the default setting tries to start your 8pm timers early so the Higher priority timer at 8pm will fire at 7:58 or so effectively tying up both OTA Tuners so your second 8pm timer will not be able to fire at 7:58, boom no recording for your second timer event.

    This will also happen on your satellite delivered channels, especially if you record sporting events, the default setting is for a sport timer to end 60 minutes late.

    When ever you have back to back timers DISH's default settings will tie up 2 Tuners, so will NOT be able to record more than one event back to back without changing Dish's default settings.

    I'm assuming you purchased the additional OTA tuner Module, do you have an OTA Antenna connected to your 722k's OTA Tuner Module. Be sure to record your local OTA sources from the guide using the "YELLOW" banded EPG listings not OTA channels delivered via satellite in your EPG. Let's say your local channels are 8,10,13,21,and 31. To change to a true local OTA sourced channel you would have to input 008-01 for channel 8, 010-01 for Channel 10, 013-01 for Channel 13, ...etc. If you are only keying in 8 then you will selecting a local OTA channel delivered via satellite effectively tying up one satellite tuner.


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    JohnL,
    If left at the factory default of 1 min early and 3 min late the timers will automatically drop the pad when necessary. Mine have never failed to do so and I have several back to back timers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n0qcu View Post
    JohnL,
    If left at the factory default of 1 min early and 3 min late the timers will automatically drop the pad when necessary. Mine have never failed to do so and I have several back to back timers.
    I believe they drop the "pad" only if the back-to-backs are on the same channel. I've had some issue with Thursdays and Sundays where most of my recordings occur. I utilize OTA whenever possible but have 4 timers set for the same time at a couple of different intervals both of those days. If a show on another channel is scheduled to start while another channel is recording then the default padding will prohibit that next show from recording if there is another program scheduled to record (ota / satellite). Hope that makes sense as it can be a little confusing.
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