Thread: Dish Network: Poor video quality using coax cable. Dish techs at a loss!

You're saying the ViP222k can use an EHD? I've read otherwise, and it's not listed by Dish either
here

or
here

. Of course, their web site might not be up to date. But if the ViP222k can use an EHD, when did that happen? Seems we have a current thread or two by people that are saying it isn't possible.

Originally Posted by navychop

You're saying the ViP222k can use an EHD? I've read otherwise, and it's not listed by Dish either
here

or
here

. Of course, their web site might not be up to date. But if the ViP222k can use an EHD, when did that happen? Seems we have a current thread or two by people that are saying it isn't possible.

ok. I may have been mistaken but I thought I saw in our tech manual a new method by which non dvr receivers could essentially be turned into dvr's
I will have to check on that. I do not have my manual at home right now.
The point is save for the dual tuner capability there is no real diff between the 211k and 222k.

From what I've read, no first hand knowledge here, some early versions of the ViP222k used a different motherboard (or chipset?) that does not properly support an EHD, so Dish will not be supporting EHDs with that particular model.

But yes, certainly the ViP211, for example, can use an EHD, after paying the one time fee of about $40. It then behaves pretty much like a DVR, without a monthly DVR fee. But that EHD cannot be read by a ViP612, ViP622 or ViP722(k).

The 222k can use the separate 2 tuner OTA module. The 211k only has the built in single OTA module. That is what I mean by fancier. So 2 sat & 2 OTA. Don't think the 222k can use the EHD yet.

Originally Posted by Stargazer

Then don't use coax? You can use A/V cables and you will have much better results. I have used an ethernet wire and connected each of those wires on each end to the RCA cable ends on each end.

TV2 out is only coax on the receiver.

Originally Posted by dishcomm

because there isn;t anything that can be done.
If the following troubleshoots have been done.
Choose a lower chanel number. Lower channel, lower frequency, signal travels farther.
Direct coax connect (via a temporary line) from the receiver to tv 2
swap receiver to see if the tv 2 output is malfunctioning.
Connecting receiver to another elect outlet. Same for tv 2.
Connecting receiver's tv 2 output to tv 1 to see if the pic is clear or not.
Different tv at the tv 2 location.

These are my general troubleshoots for this issue.
If these have been exhausted with no results, using progressive logic, the issue MUST be soemthing other than the satellite system/setup/cabling.
It is possible there are electrical issues or soem kind of terrestrial interference.
Possible cable tv signal "leakage". This would interfere with the tv 2 signal.

It has nothing to with the satellite install or signal strength.

Tried all those; no change.

Is it possible to bring the second TV close to the box and try a shorter cable?
This way you will know if the problem is with the cables.

You said you tried all those. So, what was the result of connecting TV2 output of you receiver to you TV set 1 with a short cable? Did you see the ghost picture on TV 1 or not? If you did, then you likely have a bad receiver. If you didn't, then the problem is in the wiring or in the TV set itself. It's one of the three: either the receiver or the cables between the receiver and your TV set 2, or it's the TV set itself. By doing the tests proposed above, you should be able to figure out which one of the three is causing the problem. Most likely it's the wiring, but I would suggest you check the other two suspects first.

Originally Posted by Ilya

Is it possible to bring the second TV close to the box and try a shorter cable?
This way you will know if the problem is with the cables.

Tried that.