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- 08-18-2007 08:30 PM #1
Visionsat...we have an issue with blind scan
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Well I thought the Visionsat was the best box I worked with....until tonight
Up to today I have worked with a 4x4 multiswitch on it or a feed from the motorized (for blind scan purposes). Well tonight I tried to hook up something different...a 8x1 switch
port 2 was G4...22k on was AMC1
port 4 was Dish 119
port 6 was G10
port 8 was a feed from motorized
Receiver does acknowledge all ports except 1 (which on the switch is bad)....but ran into an issue
If you do a blind scan on any port the box gets confused and goes to no ports.....you have to power off on back and power on. Also the box won't acknowledge the 22k off the 8x1 switch
So I thought it was the switch...swapped to a 4x1 switch
port 1 was G4/AMC1
port 2 was 119
port 3 was G10
port 4 was motor
Scanned G4...worked fine
scanned AMC1....acknowledged 22k switch
auto scan on 119 for free....works fine
manual scanned 123...worked fine
brought up SBS6 (G17) and scanned in ONN.
Now to blind scan....and it comes up with 0 channels and gets confused (again)....flipped to channel 1 (CBS off G4) and it worked fine. Blind scanned G4 and no issues
So right now here is the issue and I guess if anyone else has one please comment...If you do a blind scan on a satellite that ISNT in port 1 of a diseqc switch, the box will not scan any new TP's and get confused.
-port 1 works fine
-manual, auto, advanced works fine
-22k works fine
Has anyone with the Visionsat seen this and hopefully they can fix that issue.Winegard 76cm dish, SG2100 motor, Sadoun dual KU LNB..... Directv Slimline SWM 3 LNB.... GeoSatPro 36" dish with Sadoun dual KU LNB... Coolsat 5000 on motorized.... Manhattan RS1933....Directv HR34 (yes the 5 tuner monster) GeoSatPro 200 to aim dishes.... few receivers not set up yet
Two 6 foot Fortec dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB "ghetto moved" to various C-Band satellites
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- 08-18-2007 10:04 PM #2
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Proud Staff Memberwell its definitely the box. Hooked C-Band to port 4 (from 1) and same thing....scans 0 channels

For most people this wont make a difference as they either
-use a 22k switch
-have no switch involved
But for me this changes how I was going to do the setup. Like I say, it works fine on all other scans BUT blind scan. I scanned SBS6, G10, DIsh 119 and G4 and flipped between channels with no issues...but if I blind scan a satellite not on port 1 of switch, it won't scan properly
Winegard 76cm dish, SG2100 motor, Sadoun dual KU LNB..... Directv Slimline SWM 3 LNB.... GeoSatPro 36" dish with Sadoun dual KU LNB... Coolsat 5000 on motorized.... Manhattan RS1933....Directv HR34 (yes the 5 tuner monster) GeoSatPro 200 to aim dishes.... few receivers not set up yet
Two 6 foot Fortec dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB "ghetto moved" to various C-Band satellites
- 08-19-2007 11:50 AM #3
Understand this is from my few hours I've had time to play with my new unit! I'll check out anything else you like

I received my Visionsat yesterday. I haven't gotten my dish yet, but that (of course) wouldn't stop me from playing with it
After putting the latest factory firmware on it, I dug up an old Dish 500 just to try out my first Blind Scan. It worked great and found tons of scrambled stuff on 119 (LOVE the interface, btw!) After reading your problem, I tossed a Diseqc switch on, hooked up the 110 LNB, and tried another Blind Scan of both ports.
Port 1 (the "default" port) blind scans fine. Port 4, where I have the other LNB, finds nothing with a blind scan. That confused me because I had verified a strong signal from the menu. It seems you're right, when blind scanning it won't switch ports properly. The only way I found to add channels for port 4 is to scan the known transponders... which is not what I bought the Blind Scanning Visionsat for
I guess as a workaround for now we can temporarily use a barrel connector instead of the switch to BS extra LNB's / dishes, then replace the switch and adjust the Diseqc setting in the menu? That said, I hope they fix this issue ASAP. Seems a kind of obvious problem...
This will also change how I planned my setup. The Invacom I bought needs some kind of switch to have a single receiver utilize both circular and linear LNB ports. I guess I'll have to invest in a 22khz switch instead of a Diseqc in order to BS on both?
- 08-19-2007 01:03 PM #4
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Proud Staff MemberCharred
Yep. Now that the rain subsided I tried it today
-port 1 from motorized
-port 2 from G10
-port 3 from G4
Port 1 scans on auto, manual and scanned AMC5 and found about 1/2 dozen news feeds...same as the Coolsat. Tried SBS6 and AMC3 and all scanned the same amount of TP's as the Coolsat.
Port 2 & 3 will only scan auto & manual...blind scan gets nothing
Like I say if you have a motorized unit this wont be much of an issue as port 1 could be KU and port 2 be DBS (if using a QPH). But if you use multiple dishes then we have an issue
Winegard 76cm dish, SG2100 motor, Sadoun dual KU LNB..... Directv Slimline SWM 3 LNB.... GeoSatPro 36" dish with Sadoun dual KU LNB... Coolsat 5000 on motorized.... Manhattan RS1933....Directv HR34 (yes the 5 tuner monster) GeoSatPro 200 to aim dishes.... few receivers not set up yet
Two 6 foot Fortec dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB "ghetto moved" to various C-Band satellites
- 08-19-2007 01:05 PM #5
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Proud Staff MemberWinegard 76cm dish, SG2100 motor, Sadoun dual KU LNB..... Directv Slimline SWM 3 LNB.... GeoSatPro 36" dish with Sadoun dual KU LNB... Coolsat 5000 on motorized.... Manhattan RS1933....Directv HR34 (yes the 5 tuner monster) GeoSatPro 200 to aim dishes.... few receivers not set up yet
Two 6 foot Fortec dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB "ghetto moved" to various C-Band satellites
- 08-20-2007 03:57 AM #6
I've found that the perfect switch for the QPH Invacom is a 4 x 4 22k multiswitch. This allows up to four receivers to see both polarities of both circular and linear satellites at once. The switches are also relatively inexpensive, and the better brands are more reliable than DiSEqC switches
Current systems: 2X Visionsat IV-200 PVRs; Pansat 2700; Digitrans DTE-7150 DVB/Digicipher II; Twinhan and Nexus-S PC DVB cards; SiliconDust HDHomeRun ATSC/QAM networked tuners; fixed 1 meter Channel Master dish with Eagle Aspen P870 FSS Ku-Band stacked LNB; 2X 3ABN 36" dishes with Invacom QPH-031 Ku/DBS-Band LNBFs on Moteck SG-2100 H-H motors; fixed Sadoun SD180G 1.8 meter dish with Eagle Aspen B1SAT STACK C-Band stacked LNBF; Winegard Square Shooter OTA DTV antenna
- 08-20-2007 10:47 AM #7
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Proud Staff Membervery true

Also I got a e-mail that Visionsat is working on the issue
Winegard 76cm dish, SG2100 motor, Sadoun dual KU LNB..... Directv Slimline SWM 3 LNB.... GeoSatPro 36" dish with Sadoun dual KU LNB... Coolsat 5000 on motorized.... Manhattan RS1933....Directv HR34 (yes the 5 tuner monster) GeoSatPro 200 to aim dishes.... few receivers not set up yet
Two 6 foot Fortec dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB "ghetto moved" to various C-Band satellites
- 08-21-2007 12:01 AM #8
One other thing- you may have noticed this, Iceberg (if it's truly a universal issue)... does yours keep accurate time? I've set the time on mine three times so far in the past two days, and it keeps going off for some reason. The funny thing is, I haven't even gotten to really use it yet (just got the dish today and had no time to put it up) but every time I walk by the tv area I look at the clock display. I thought at first my kid had played with it, but it happened again today... ?
- 08-21-2007 10:48 AM #9
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Proud Staff MemberI'll have to check. I think it shows it by military time
Winegard 76cm dish, SG2100 motor, Sadoun dual KU LNB..... Directv Slimline SWM 3 LNB.... GeoSatPro 36" dish with Sadoun dual KU LNB... Coolsat 5000 on motorized.... Manhattan RS1933....Directv HR34 (yes the 5 tuner monster) GeoSatPro 200 to aim dishes.... few receivers not set up yet
Two 6 foot Fortec dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB "ghetto moved" to various C-Band satellites
- 09-02-2007 11:05 PM #10

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