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    Question Am I the first person to try to use the WorldDVB DVB-S2-CA Card Reader?

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    Okay, I'm trying to get to the bottom of this. Apparently, the DVBWorld has products that support Nagravision via their card readers right out of the box. When I plugin the card reader, it gets a red light showing it's connected. However, I dont see a respective device driver for it... not even a serial port (com port) in Windows Device Manager.

    If I had a nagravision compatible program, it would expect this device to be available via WDM, BDA, COM port, something....

    Maybe there's someone here smart enough to at least have experimented a little bit with it. I'm guessing it should be no different than a phoenix card reader.

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    I don't think there are too many in this hemisphere that have tried card readers for Nagravision.
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    Nagravision wont work here as the card needs to be married to the receiver, and there is no one who will marry a card to the receiver, so you need to use theres.
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    Yeah, that's what people seem to be saying here. However, there's the WorldTV/Globcast provider on probably one of the most popular birds... Galaxy 19. Seems to make sense to try to use equipment that made for that kind of stuff. I certainly hope I'm not the first person who is attempting to do this since I was hoping to get some basic questions answered. I started asking questions in another thread, but I thought I would dedicate this thead to just how to get the card reader to work. I wonder if this card reader has the same capabilities as other popular card readers like phoenix. I would just be happy to get it to do what it was meant to do. If I at least have a way to access the hardware, I have a chance to do something with it.

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    No Globecast makes you use their receiver for the NAGRA stuff as its the only way it will work. And for the IRIDETO stuff they want you to use their box, but with IRDETO any fta receiver with a smart card slot can be used.
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    Although not intimately familiar with the system architecture, I believe CA resides higher than MPEG decode and delivery, which is the main function of the DVB card, as far as the host PC is concerned.

    As a practical matter, I interpret this to mean that a card reader would *not* enumerate in Windows, and also to mean that there is no standard "nagravision compatible program". Essentially, it's an inseparable part of the DVB card. This isn't of course to suggest that undecoded packets could not be transmitted to the PC, but it would be a non-standard mode of operation.

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    You know, I just went looking around at DVBWorld stuff and didn't find what I had imagined you were referring to. Maybe I'll look first next time.

    Educate me a little as to the nature of this card reader, if you would. I'm rather curious now.

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    Hmmm.. So I guess I am the first person. WorldTV said they will call me back to see if there's a way around the strict policy to use their equipment; so, at least its a little encouraging. I also wouldn't mind looking into using IRDETO with this card reader. I'm reading up on it.

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    You know, I just went looking around at DVBWorld stuff and didn't find what I had imagined you were referring to. Maybe I'll look first next time.

    Educate me a little as to the nature of this card reader, if you would. I'm rather curious now.

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    http://www.dvb-bg.com/showthread.php?t=14060




    This suggests that Nagravision Viaccess, Conax, Irdeto are all supported. I'm just curious if there's some kind of driver to enable this device. I only installed the latest driver/software from their website when I first got their product. Maybe there's optional software on the distributed CD that comes with the package.

    "If User purchased a CA reader , the CA reader is magical CA reader ,it can read original smart card, like Irdeto
    ,Viaccess, Conax ,Nagravison, Seca…

    If User purchased a CI modul ,the CI modul can support the list CAMS:

    Compatible CAMs (Conditional Access Module)
    Compatible CAM Version
    AlphaCrypt 1.0
    Aston I 1.05
    Astoncrypt 1.03
    BataCrypt 1.0
    Conax 4.0/4.00e
    Cryptoworks 1.0/12011
    Irdeto 1.06/2.09
    Nagravision All
    Pentacrypt 1.05
    SECA I & II 1.05
    Viaccess 1.0 V481/ V483
    Zeta Cam N/A"


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    Although not intimately familiar with the system architecture, I believe CA resides higher than MPEG decode and delivery, which is the main function of the DVB card, as far as the host PC is concerned.

    As a practical matter, I interpret this to mean that a card reader would *not* enumerate in Windows, and also to mean that there is no standard "nagravision compatible program". Essentially, it's an inseparable part of the DVB card. This isn't of course to suggest that undecoded packets could not be transmitted to the PC, but it would be a non-standard mode of operation.



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    Ah, now that I see one, I can say what I had imagined was pretty much on target. So for now, I'll stand by my original comments. The host PC doesn't need to see it, so there should be no drivers.

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