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09-30-2009, 12:55 AM
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| | | Turbo coded Two questions 1 What sat receivers do HD Turbo Coded QPSK? And is the Coolsat 8100HD one that will do it with updated S/W file?
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09-30-2009, 01:10 AM
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HD Turbo
is hacking we do not talk about that here.
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09-30-2009, 03:39 AM
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| | | I'm a paying customer Quote:
Originally Posted by madmadworld HD Turbo
is hacking we do not talk about that here. | I have a 722k and subscribe so I aint hacking guy. I just got the 8100HD and am curious. I got it for PBS & CW but just asking a question. Is E* the only one that uses Turbo Coding?
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09-30-2009, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by madmadworld HD Turbo
is hacking we do not talk about that here. | Watchel1 does need to choose his word carefully. @whatchel1: using hacked boxes to extend your Dish Network sub to other TV's is still considered piracy on this board as far as I understand.
I and others may disagree but the rules are what they are.
I will abide by them. Bell ExpressVu and Dish use Turbo-coding 8PSK in North America as far as I know.
This thread should have everything we know about the Coolsat 8000/8100
I believe it only does the finished 8PSK and not TC-8PSK, assuming it does 8PSK at all. http://www.satelliteguys.us/fta-mpeg...-receiver.html @madmadworld: However we do need to keep in mind E* is going all Turbo-Coded 8PSK on Eastern Arc very soon.
Afterward will come Western Arc and that may mean NASA on 119W may be TC-8PSK In-The-Clear MPEG4 SD.
For those who can't get c-band, how are they going to get NASA in the future?
My disagreement stems from shunning of "hacker" hardware. I think it's useful and serves a legal purpose, mainly finding Forgot-To-Encrypt stuff.
I'll take every ITC and FTE channel I can get on my FTA system.
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09-30-2009, 04:18 AM
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| | | simple question Quote:
Originally Posted by meinename Watchel1 does need to choose his word carefully. @whatchel1: using hacked boxes to extend your Dish Network sub to other TV's is still considered piracy on this board as far as I understand.
I and others may disagree but the rules are what they are.
I will abide by them. Bell ExpressVu and Dish use Turbo-coding 8PSK in North America as far as I know.
This thread should have everything we know about the Coolsat 8000/8100
I believe it only does the finished 8PSK and not TC-8PSK, assuming it does 8PSK at all. http://www.satelliteguys.us/fta-mpeg...-receiver.html @madmadworld: However we do need to keep in mind E* is going all Turbo-Coded 8PSK on Eastern Arc very soon.
Afterward will come Western Arc and that may mean NASA on 119W may be TC-8PSK In-The-Clear MPEG4 SD.
For those who can't get c-band, how are they going to get NASA in the future?
My disagreement stems from shunning of "hacker" hardware. I think it's useful and serves a legal purpose, mainly finding Forgot-To-Encrypt stuff.
I'll take every ITC and FTE channel I can get on my FTA system. | It was a simple question you guys jumped to the conclusion.
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09-30-2009, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by madmadworld HD Turbo
is hacking we do not talk about that here. | Why would this have ANYTHING to do with hacking? And anyway, 99% of us are hackers here. Basically, if you subscribe to DN/DTV and don't install your own equipment, and call a service person whenever you have a problem, then maybe you aren't a hacker. But if you experiment at all, trying to find new free signals up there, and if you use hardware that you can't buy at Best Buy, or if you've ever tried changing the freq or SR of a transponder to get better reception, or gone outside and peaked the elevation of your dish, then you're a hacker. I still prefer to use the term pirate for what people here (and on other groups) tend to call hackers. Pirates are illegally trying to circumvent encryption systems. Being a hacker has nothing to do with that. Nor does the topic of turbo encoded QPSK or turbo 8PSK.
But to the original question, I haven't used my 8100 in quite a while, but I seem to remember that the most recent factory firmware (which was apparently written by pirates) does seem to indicate that they were trying to get the receiver to do at least Turbo 8PSK (obviously for the pirate community), however I don't think that it worked. I just got into a menu, when trying to select the sat parameters for a new sat, and it gave several new modes, including a turbo, that weren't in the original firmware. But I tried using this, and never managed to lock anything.
And again, none of this had anything to do with circumventing encryption, it's just about locking a transponder.
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09-30-2009, 09:43 AM
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There are some transponders that are legit fta Turbo 8psk from what I have read.
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09-30-2009, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by olliec420 There are some transponders that are legit fta Turbo 8psk from what I have read. | Anywhere else, besides E* and B*/Nimiq satellites?
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09-30-2009, 09:58 AM
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sorry then.
never seen any other use of them.
still have not.
please send me or post a tp of a fta itc one.
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KU>5)Fortec 36"90 cm,on 5) STAB 100 Motors 1) Fortec 31"80 cm @97°
Fortec's 5400,Classic na,ULTRA,Pansat's 2>2700,2800,5>3500,9000HD,9200 S-2 HD,Coolsat 5000,SV-8000 HD,Visionsat IV-200,and a Azbox named it Andy Pettitte because he keeps misremembering stuff | 
09-30-2009, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by madmadworld sorry then.
never seen any other use of them.
still have not.
please send me or post a tp of a fta itc one. | I'd don't have any but I'd prefer we keep that to the WUT section or PM's
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