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Old 11-10-2009, 09:49 PM
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What do you get in 4:2:2

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What do you get in 4:2:2? are many stations 4:2:2 or mostly feeds?
KU and C-Band or both?

If it is still not much I will put off getting a receiver that does this and stick with the Pansat 9200HD with card.
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Old 11-10-2009, 09:51 PM
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lots of sports feeds are 4:2:2
the main 4:2:2 channels are ther4 GDMX on G16 C-Band. They have syndicated programming that you see during daytime
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Old 11-11-2009, 05:08 AM
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I've been pondering the same thing recently too. Ice probably has a good answer for this too. If I had a choice should I go with the Quali or the Pansat 9200HD with the extra board? I'm guessing the Quali. I don't have a computer fast enough for the other way of doing this. Of course it has to be somewhat user friendly...IE the wife. Blind
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Old 11-11-2009, 06:24 AM
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I've been pondering the same thing recently too. Ice probably has a good answer for this too. If I had a choice should I go with the Quali or the Pansat 9200HD with the extra board? I'm guessing the Quali. I don't have a computer fast enough for the other way of doing this. Of course it has to be somewhat user friendly...IE the wife. Blind
Hi Blind and the group, It might not take as much of a computer as you might think. My HTPC is only a 1.6GHz but it is a dual core and I have lots of memory - 2GB. It does 4:2:2 and even mpeg 2 HD just fine.

I run XP Pro on it with SP3 but I did have trouble with the updates to the net 2 framework that ProgDVB requires so I rolled the net 2 back and it has worked fine since.

Something I found interesting is I tried DvbDream and while the CPU usage was lower then with ProgDVB, the computer would have choppy video when playing fast sporting feeds. It plays the fastest sports with ProgDVB just fine with no chop at all.

Setting up a HTPC can be a chore but after it is done they are not too hard to use. Anyhow, let me know if you need any more info on the setup.

BTW - I'm sure you have run a blind scan with a DVB receiver set for FTA only and found new channels but when you go to view them the screen is black or maybe has lots of little color blocks and maybe audio plays for a second or stays on - thats it, chances are good you just found a 4:2:2 or mpeg 2 HD feed.

If you find these often then it might be worthwhile to get setup for 4:2:2 and HD. If you do not scan much then maybe not worthwhile.

PS - also check out the AZBOX I just got one and after the firmware update it is doing 4:2:2 and HD. Cold case files is coming up on G16
Got to go watch it. Later, DC

Hope this helps, DC
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Old 11-11-2009, 08:11 AM
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What do you get in 4:2:2? are many stations 4:2:2 or mostly feeds?
KU and C-Band or both?

If it is still not much I will put off getting a receiver that does this and stick with the Pansat 9200HD with card.
you mean Pansat 9200HD with S-2 board ?
when it comes to 4:2:2 it is the AZBOX or computer card.

if you are a sports nut more feeds are going 4:2:2 .




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I've been pondering the same thing recently too. Ice probably has a good answer for this too. If I had a choice should I go with the Quali or the Pansat 9200HD with the extra board? I'm guessing the Quali. I don't have a computer fast enough for the other way of doing this. Of course it has to be somewhat user friendly...IE the wife. Blind
Pansat 9200HD with the extra board S-2

Quali no S-2 and more 4:2:2 feeds are S-2
so you end up back to the AZBOX
but the wife would find the Pansat 9200HD more like the Fortec my guess.

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Old 11-11-2009, 08:18 AM
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Thanks for the info by all. The Azbox is linux based correct. It's gotta be easy or the wife will scream lol. I thought the Quali did Dvb, S2, and 4:2:2. Maybe I misread it somewhere. Thanks Blind
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:18 AM
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The Quali only does 4:2:2 and its an old receiver

azbox does MPEG4, DVB-S2, 4:2:2 (along with 4:2:0)...the azbox isnt that hard to work with once the channels are set up
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:21 AM
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Thanks for the info by all. The Azbox is linux based correct. It's gotta be easy or the wife will scream lol. I thought the Quali did Dvb, S2, and 4:2:2. Maybe I misread it somewhere. Thanks Blind
It does 4:2:2. just not S-2 ones and that's lot of them.


The Azbox is linux based correct.
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Old 11-11-2009, 12:01 PM
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It does 4:2:2. just not S-2 ones and that's lot of them.


The Azbox is linux based correct.
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Yes, The AZBox is linux based.
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Being Linux Based really has nothing to do with being Easy.
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