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- 11-12-2009 10:04 AM #1
Canales en Espanol - 93.1W & 116.8W
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NOTE: This is a continuation of my "Sky Mexico" thread, I thought I would post a new thread because this will cover a how to combine 2 satellites that are spaced so far apart.
I have someone that is very interested in getting two popular spanish channels that are in the clear but the channels are on two different satellites. The problem is at the condo she resides in she is allowed only one dish....
Here are the two channels she wants:
AZTECA 7,13,40 @ 93.1w Ku
Televisa Tijuana @ 116.8w Ku
I will be using a 90cm GloryStar dish with two linear bullet lnb's. I would like to fabricate a lnb holder of some type and secure the lnb's on one dish to look at both 93.1 & 116.8
Is this something that either has been done before or is it even possible?
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- 11-12-2009 10:22 AM #2
Hehe.. I knew she wanted Televisa and Azteca.. good deal.
Now as far as catching both birds with same dish with the 23.7 degree separation can be a pain to achieve properly. Best bet would be to motor that setup, or probably use a 1m dish to be able to get signals from 93/116w somehow.DTV Gear: (3) HR24-500 w/3TB external
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- 11-12-2009 10:40 AM #3
There was a thread some time ago where someone considered trying nine degree separation. That was really far apart back then.
I think you will find the LNBFs are so far away from the focal point that the signal will be too low for a 90cm dish.
It won't hurt to try it, except possibly being a waste of time. If you make it work, people will bow at your feet.
Motor is the way to go.
- 11-12-2009 11:22 AM #4
The other thing to consider is the satellite footprint of 116.8
The farther north you go the worse it gets. Here in MN I can barely get anything with a 36" (but Azteca I can get on an 18" dish and KU LNB...its that strong)
Folks in the Southern US can get those channels on 116.8 with no issuesWinegard 76cm dish, SG2100 motor, Sadoun dual KU LNB..... Directv Slimline SWM 3 LNB.... GeoSatPro 36" dish with Sadoun dual KU LNB... Coolsat 5000 on motorized.... Manhattan RS1933....Directv HR34 (yes the 5 tuner monster) GeoSatPro 200 to aim dishes.... few receivers not set up yet
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- 11-12-2009 11:34 AM #5DTV Gear: (3) HR24-500 w/3TB external
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- 11-12-2009 01:29 PM #6
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Yea, good thinking.
Maybe you could sneak in a 20 or 22 inch dish in addition to a 36 or 1m dish?
Still have to consider rain-fade, of course.
What I originally was going to suggest is maybe using the "one dish per condo" rule (which is not enforceable) and offer to share signals with a neighbor, for allowing your customer's 2nd dish outside the other unit.
Or, if there are numerous clients for these Spanish-language services living there, maybe one or two big dishes on the roof, fed through a multiswitch to several units?
Share the cost, but get you more business?
rethink:
Well, based on that info and your customer's location, if you have any chance at all, put the 116 LNB on bore-sight, and the other LNB far off center.
I'm not holding out much hope, but good luck. -
Last edited by Anole; 11-12-2009 at 01:39 PM.
- 11-12-2009 01:46 PM #7
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This may be a good application for a toroid dish like the T90. 14 degrees of spread in satellites is trivial on such a dish as one can go up to 40 degrees and sometimes a little more. It's also easy to add more satellites down the road if you plan ahead in the initial alignment. One can also add LNBs for DBS down the road and keep to a single dish.
Toroids are a little more expensive, but less than two dishes of comparable size and less than a motorized setup. You can save some money by telling Wave Frontier not to include any LNBs with the dish and picking it up at the shipping company's depot.
- 11-12-2009 01:53 PM #8
This might help .. I've always been tempted to use one of those adjustable LNB brackets..
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- 11-12-2009 02:16 PM #9
I'm using one of those on a 30" dish for 91-97-103, but I wonder if non-DBS satellites are really do-able any wider than that. For some reason all the pictures always show 82-91-110-119
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- 11-12-2009 03:11 PM #10
I would definitely point at 116.8w and with a bracket try to pull 93w which like Iceberg said, its the stronger bird.
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