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    Canales en Espanol - 93.1W & 116.8W

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    NOTE: This is a continuation of my "Sky Mexico" thread, I thought I would post a new thread because this will cover a how to combine 2 satellites that are spaced so far apart.

    I have someone that is very interested in getting two popular spanish channels that are in the clear but the channels are on two different satellites. The problem is at the condo she resides in she is allowed only one dish....

    Here are the two channels she wants:
    AZTECA 7,13,40 @ 93.1w Ku
    Televisa Tijuana @ 116.8w Ku

    I will be using a 90cm GloryStar dish with two linear bullet lnb's. I would like to fabricate a lnb holder of some type and secure the lnb's on one dish to look at both 93.1 & 116.8

    Is this something that either has been done before or is it even possible?

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    Hehe.. I knew she wanted Televisa and Azteca.. good deal.
    Now as far as catching both birds with same dish with the 23.7 degree separation can be a pain to achieve properly. Best bet would be to motor that setup, or probably use a 1m dish to be able to get signals from 93/116w somehow.
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    There was a thread some time ago where someone considered trying nine degree separation. That was really far apart back then.

    I think you will find the LNBFs are so far away from the focal point that the signal will be too low for a 90cm dish.

    It won't hurt to try it, except possibly being a waste of time. If you make it work, people will bow at your feet.

    Motor is the way to go.

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    The other thing to consider is the satellite footprint of 116.8
    The farther north you go the worse it gets. Here in MN I can barely get anything with a 36" (but Azteca I can get on an 18" dish and KU LNB...its that strong)

    Folks in the Southern US can get those channels on 116.8 with no issues
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceberg View Post
    Azteca I can get on an 18" dish and KU LNB...its that strong
    Interesting, I will consider testing a DSS dish next time I do an install at 93w for family that wants tv Azteca.

    We'll see how strong it can do from Socal.
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    outside the box:

    Yea, good thinking.
    Maybe you could sneak in a 20 or 22 inch dish in addition to a 36 or 1m dish?
    Still have to consider rain-fade, of course.

    What I originally was going to suggest is maybe using the "one dish per condo" rule (which is not enforceable) and offer to share signals with a neighbor, for allowing your customer's 2nd dish outside the other unit.
    Or, if there are numerous clients for these Spanish-language services living there, maybe one or two big dishes on the roof, fed through a multiswitch to several units?
    Share the cost, but get you more business?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceberg View Post
    The other thing to consider is the satellite footprint of 116.8
    The farther north you go the worse it gets.
    Here in MN I can barely get anything with a 36"
    (but Azteca I can get on an 18" dish and KU LNB...its that strong)
    Well, based on that info and your customer's location, if you have any chance at all, put the 116 LNB on bore-sight, and the other LNB far off center.
    I'm not holding out much hope, but good luck. -
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    This may be a good application for a toroid dish like the T90. 14 degrees of spread in satellites is trivial on such a dish as one can go up to 40 degrees and sometimes a little more. It's also easy to add more satellites down the road if you plan ahead in the initial alignment. One can also add LNBs for DBS down the road and keep to a single dish.

    Toroids are a little more expensive, but less than two dishes of comparable size and less than a motorized setup. You can save some money by telling Wave Frontier not to include any LNBs with the dish and picking it up at the shipping company's depot.

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    This might help .. I've always been tempted to use one of those adjustable LNB brackets..
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    I'm using one of those on a 30" dish for 91-97-103, but I wonder if non-DBS satellites are really do-able any wider than that. For some reason all the pictures always show 82-91-110-119
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    I would definitely point at 116.8w and with a bracket try to pull 93w which like Iceberg said, its the stronger bird.
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