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11-26-2009, 09:21 AM
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| | | Ohio News Net question Ohio News Net question
I have been trying to get the Ohio News Net (74W) on that 18" dish with the Linear LNB, has anyone tried this with a small dish? And do I have to put in the Video, Audio and PCR PID's ? What is the signal strength at your location?
I went to Lyngsat and checked the strength for my area and the map shows nearly 49 db strength for my area, I am getting something in that direction with a 85 to 90 db strength but absolutely no quality. http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/horizons2_namh.html
Should I give up on trying to get this with a 18" dish?
Thanks
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11-26-2009, 09:25 AM
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Seems I have read here somewhere that folks have gotten ONN on a 18" dish. Have you tried to search the forums? It's a good strong signal on my 90cm (36") dish.
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11-26-2009, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Larobpra Seems I have read here somewhere that folks have gotten ONN on a 18" dish. Have you tried to search the forums? It's a good strong signal on my 90cm (36") dish. |
I did a search for Ohio News Net and came up with sat av plasma vs lcd PLASMA VS LCD cmt front row evansville what satellite can i get with circular lnb bell customer service numbers gac hdtv antenna 722s 622 pip
I also put in a search for
18" dish FTA
And got the same results
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WS7630 75cm Dish single LNB for 103West
Fortec, Viewsat and Visionsat receivers * Avatar is Macy's Satellite Network on 105W. >>>> Everyone should look into upgrading their OTA capabilities and get a deep fringe outdoor antenna ( with a rotator) and use a 30 db MAST MOUNTED amp. This adds a new dimension to the meaning of "FTA". | 
11-26-2009, 10:43 AM
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Going by that coverage map, 18" looks a bit small. (46 cm)
Have you re-checked the LNBF skew?
What tells you 85 to 90 db strength?
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11-26-2009, 10:55 AM
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I would think a 30" dish would be minimum.
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11-26-2009, 11:33 AM
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The 18" dish would not work for The Ohio News Network. I was getting around 85 db signal but no quality on my Visionsat receiver , I tried every angle and no go. I probably was hitting another satellite anyway...I re parked the dish back at 101W for now. On the Visionsat I get 72% quality with the 18" dish with the Linear LNB and 60% on the Fortec Star.
(BTW I did manage to get That Hotel Channel with History and Biography, but the signal levels were just barely hitting 17% Q on the Visionsat. The Visionsat will get stable signals as low as 18%..compared to the Fortec Star which seems to need 30+ %.)
I did get 95W CCTV with the 18" dish outside by the dish with a 22% quality on the Visionsat, (I did try re tweaking the skew and the settings...but nothing better than 24% peak) but the Fortec inside the house after a 100 foot run didn't get it at all.
I did try 123W looking for Research channel and University of Washington and didn't get a peep out of them either on the 18" dish.
I tried 72W ..no go on that either. I even entered a TP for a active "Wild Sports Feed" that someone reported active this morning...no go either.
But if anyone has a spare 18" dish lying around with a spare Linear LNB, 101W with 3ABN will come in with no problem.
Overall this has been a (good learning experience) ongoing experiment with the 18" dish. The next upcoming projects in the next couple of months.will include multi satellite LNB's with brackets. I thought about a motor, but I have several dishes now and the bracket/LNB multifeed method would be the most logical next step. I have to warm up now, it has been in the high 30's this morning with light wind....lol
Thanks for your comments...
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Fortec, Viewsat and Visionsat receivers * Avatar is Macy's Satellite Network on 105W. >>>> Everyone should look into upgrading their OTA capabilities and get a deep fringe outdoor antenna ( with a rotator) and use a 30 db MAST MOUNTED amp. This adds a new dimension to the meaning of "FTA". | 
11-26-2009, 12:10 PM
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I could get ONN with good quality reading on my little dish project, but mine's the old Dish500 dish. I think it measures around 21-22", don't have an 18" to try but ONN is pretty strong TP.
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11-26-2009, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill_KY I tried 72W ..no go on that either. I even entered a TP for a active "Wild Sports Feed" that someone reported active this morning...no go either. | Until a few days ago, I could get the semi-permanent NBC feeds with good quality on 72W with an 18" dish. I was blaming the weather for losing them, but now it's not raining and I have 0 quality. I'm going to have to try moving the dish.
For some reason that satellite was always weird on the 18". If I'd peak on a strong transponder, the weak ones would disappear, and vice-versa. I wonder if it's interference from adjacent satellites.
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11-26-2009, 02:25 PM
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Yes it will work providing the weather is OK at the uplink. I have it at my cottage in Canada and normally get between 40-60 quality. BTW its been there for 2 years and really have had no problems. Also I used a standard lnb on it with a homebrew bracket (bolt and a couple of conduit hangers)
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11-26-2009, 05:10 PM
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I've been getting it for a couple of years on a Superdish with no trouble, a bit bigger than an 18" dish though.
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