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    Ohio News Net question

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    I have been trying to get the Ohio News Net (74W) on that 18" dish with the Linear LNB, has anyone tried this with a small dish? And do I have to put in the Video, Audio and PCR PID's ? What is the signal strength at your location?

    I went to Lyngsat and checked the strength for my area and the map shows nearly 49 db strength for my area, I am getting something in that direction with a 85 to 90 db strength but absolutely no quality.


    http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/horizons2_namh.html




    Should I give up on trying to get this with a 18" dish?

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    * Avatar is Macy's Satellite Network on 105W.

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    Seems I have read here somewhere that folks have gotten ONN on a 18" dish. Have you tried to search the forums? It's a good strong signal on my 90cm (36") dish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larobpra View Post
    Seems I have read here somewhere that folks have gotten ONN on a 18" dish. Have you tried to search the forums? It's a good strong signal on my 90cm (36") dish.

    I did a search for Ohio News Net and came up with




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    I also put in a search for

    18" dish FTA

    And got the same results
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    * Avatar is Macy's Satellite Network on 105W.

    >>>> Everyone should look into upgrading their OTA capabilities and get a deep fringe outdoor antenna ( with a rotator) and use a 30 db MAST MOUNTED amp. This adds a new dimension to the meaning of "FTA".

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    18 inches in cm




    Going by that coverage map, 18" looks a bit small. (46 cm)

    Have you re-checked the LNBF skew?

    What tells you 85 to 90 db strength?


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    I would think a 30" dish would be minimum.
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    The 18" dish would not work for The Ohio News Network. I was getting around 85 db signal but no quality on my Visionsat receiver , I tried every angle and no go. I probably was hitting another satellite anyway...I re parked the dish back at 101W for now. On the Visionsat I get 72% quality with the 18" dish with the Linear LNB and 60% on the Fortec Star.

    (BTW I did manage to get That Hotel Channel with History and Biography, but the signal levels were just barely hitting 17% Q on the Visionsat. The Visionsat will get stable signals as low as 18%..compared to the Fortec Star which seems to need 30+ %.)

    I did get 95W CCTV with the 18" dish outside by the dish with a 22% quality on the Visionsat, (I did try re tweaking the skew and the settings...but nothing better than 24% peak) but the Fortec inside the house after a 100 foot run didn't get it at all.

    I did try 123W looking for Research channel and University of Washington and didn't get a peep out of them either on the 18" dish.

    I tried 72W ..no go on that either. I even entered a TP for a active "Wild Sports Feed" that someone reported active this morning...no go either.

    But if anyone has a spare 18" dish lying around with a spare Linear LNB, 101W with 3ABN will come in with no problem.

    Overall this has been a (good learning experience) ongoing experiment with the 18" dish. The next upcoming projects in the next couple of months.will include multi satellite LNB's with brackets. I thought about a motor, but I have several dishes now and the bracket/LNB multifeed method would be the most logical next step. I have to warm up now, it has been in the high 30's this morning with light wind....lol


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    * Avatar is Macy's Satellite Network on 105W.

    >>>> Everyone should look into upgrading their OTA capabilities and get a deep fringe outdoor antenna ( with a rotator) and use a 30 db MAST MOUNTED amp. This adds a new dimension to the meaning of "FTA".

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    I could get ONN with good quality reading on my little dish project, but mine's the old Dish500 dish. I think it measures around 21-22", don't have an 18" to try but ONN is pretty strong TP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill_KY View Post
    I tried 72W ..no go on that either. I even entered a TP for a active "Wild Sports Feed" that someone reported active this morning...no go either.
    Until a few days ago, I could get the semi-permanent NBC feeds with good quality on 72W with an 18" dish. I was blaming the weather for losing them, but now it's not raining and I have 0 quality. I'm going to have to try moving the dish.

    For some reason that satellite was always weird on the 18". If I'd peak on a strong transponder, the weak ones would disappear, and vice-versa. I wonder if it's interference from adjacent satellites.
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    Yes it will work providing the weather is OK at the uplink. I have it at my cottage in Canada and normally get between 40-60 quality. BTW its been there for 2 years and really have had no problems. Also I used a standard lnb on it with a homebrew bracket (bolt and a couple of conduit hangers)

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    I've been getting it for a couple of years on a Superdish with no trouble, a bit bigger than an 18" dish though.

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