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Old 11-30-2009, 01:48 AM
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Linear\circular LNB Question

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I have a Digiwave DGL-1189S Ku Twin LNBF circulr/linear hooked up on my Primestar 1.2m dish. I am using my Coolsat 8000HD receiver.
I got this LNBF for getting NASA and Ion on 119W.
I set the LNBF on LO:10.75 standard.
On G19 (97W) some Tps are like 1% (11779H 3979), 20% (11789V 28125), 59-62%(11836V 20765),85% (1196H 22000), 72% (11991V 22000), 1% (12053V 22000), etc... Can't even get the Tp that have Fashion Channel (HD).
Since the dish is motorized the LNBF skew is set at 0 since movement of the dish determine the skew.
Is this LNBF suitable for any HD channels? None seems to come in at all. I can't even program AMC21 to get the PBS channels at all.
On AMC1 (103W) the Tps are 64% (11942V 2000), and 47% (12142V 2000), 44% (12182V 25000), 1-5% (12097V 200000. Sometimes the Pentagon channels fade in and out, breaking up.
Are you guys getting the same results as me? Or is this LNBF any good at all? What would be a good LNBF to get a steady worthwhile signals?
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System 1: Pansat 2700a with a Moteck SG2100 HH motor drive and a Invacom universal .3 LNB mounted on a Primestar 1.2 meter dish. Also using a Primestar .75 meter with a .8 Channel Master LNB to receive AMC 3 channels (this is because of obstruction in its path!)
Using Extigy External soundcard to encode AC 3 audio.
System 2: Pansat 2000v as a slave receiver on the 4DTV GI 920 system that consists of a 1985 8 foot solid dish with a Cotorola II feed horn and 15 degree LNB. For C Band FTA use.
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Old 11-30-2009, 02:06 AM
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I fail to mention that those are Quality readings.
On Echostar 10. most of the Tps are in the 80 to 90% readings (the free clear advertising channels). Some Tps are like 20%.
I just moved this dish from behind my trailer to another location because of LOS issues. Could I be off track of the arc? The further west I go, the worst the signal/quality signals.
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System 1: Pansat 2700a with a Moteck SG2100 HH motor drive and a Invacom universal .3 LNB mounted on a Primestar 1.2 meter dish. Also using a Primestar .75 meter with a .8 Channel Master LNB to receive AMC 3 channels (this is because of obstruction in its path!)
Using Extigy External soundcard to encode AC 3 audio.
System 2: Pansat 2000v as a slave receiver on the 4DTV GI 920 system that consists of a 1985 8 foot solid dish with a Cotorola II feed horn and 15 degree LNB. For C Band FTA use.
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Old 11-30-2009, 02:34 AM
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And when I am on 119W, most of its TPs are 75% except 12370V 20000 which the quality signal fades in and out between 0 to 25%, can't get a lock on NASA. the ION channels are great (12414H 20000 at 70%)
What do yall think I need to do?
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System 1: Pansat 2700a with a Moteck SG2100 HH motor drive and a Invacom universal .3 LNB mounted on a Primestar 1.2 meter dish. Also using a Primestar .75 meter with a .8 Channel Master LNB to receive AMC 3 channels (this is because of obstruction in its path!)
Using Extigy External soundcard to encode AC 3 audio.
System 2: Pansat 2000v as a slave receiver on the 4DTV GI 920 system that consists of a 1985 8 foot solid dish with a Cotorola II feed horn and 15 degree LNB. For C Band FTA use.
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Old 11-30-2009, 02:49 AM
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Look like 119W is as far I can get, as far as getting the western satellites. Can't get 123W at all.
Look like I may have to figure out the adjustments on the dish to get those signals in.
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System 1: Pansat 2700a with a Moteck SG2100 HH motor drive and a Invacom universal .3 LNB mounted on a Primestar 1.2 meter dish. Also using a Primestar .75 meter with a .8 Channel Master LNB to receive AMC 3 channels (this is because of obstruction in its path!)
Using Extigy External soundcard to encode AC 3 audio.
System 2: Pansat 2000v as a slave receiver on the 4DTV GI 920 system that consists of a 1985 8 foot solid dish with a Cotorola II feed horn and 15 degree LNB. For C Band FTA use.
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Old 11-30-2009, 05:24 AM
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When you are locked on 119w go out and try to push the dish up and down to see if the quality improves.

You might just need to adjust your true south a touch.

Its also worth mentioning that lnb is designed to receive 119/118w. I have one here and it does not do very well for the true linear sats.

It will work, but I lose 5-10% signal strength when using the linear/cirular lnb as apposed to a regular linear lnb.
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Old 11-30-2009, 07:25 AM
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Just installed one yesterday when I switched out to my new Channel Master 90cm dish.

I have had sub-par results to say the least - my quality readings are much lower than my previous readings with a Invacom QPF-031 on my Primestar 70E.

I will be purchasing an Invacom QPH-031 as quickly as possible....
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Old 11-30-2009, 10:07 AM
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I have been struggling with this issue all afternoon yesterday. I put on my Invacom-031 when it was getting dark and couldn't get squat with it. This morning I will put it on again and try another linear LNBF and see what happens. I may have to designate a Dish 500 dish just for the 119W NASA stuff.
I adjusted the dish this way and that way. Pain in the butt...
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System 1: Pansat 2700a with a Moteck SG2100 HH motor drive and a Invacom universal .3 LNB mounted on a Primestar 1.2 meter dish. Also using a Primestar .75 meter with a .8 Channel Master LNB to receive AMC 3 channels (this is because of obstruction in its path!)
Using Extigy External soundcard to encode AC 3 audio.
System 2: Pansat 2000v as a slave receiver on the 4DTV GI 920 system that consists of a 1985 8 foot solid dish with a Cotorola II feed horn and 15 degree LNB. For C Band FTA use.
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Old 11-30-2009, 10:49 AM
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I just slapped an old DIrecTV LNB next to the KU one so I can get all the DBS freebies out there (there isnt much on 82,91,110,129 but it doesnt hurt to have it)
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Winegard 76cm dish, SG2100 motor, Sadoun dual KU LNB/DirecTv dual..... Fortec 6 foot dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB aimed at 99W... Primestar 84e aimed at 91W.... WSIDigital 4 foot dish with Sadoun dual LNB aimed at 105W with 2nd LNB for 101W.... GeoSatPro 36" dish, SG2100 motor, Sadoun dual LNB
Coolsat 5000 on motorized....AZBox HD Elite on 99,motorized,105....Viacast DSR1500 on 99....GeoSatPro DSR200c on 2nd motorized.... Directv D15 DVR on 101W.... Pansat 1500 to aim dishes.... few receivers not set up yet
Other 6 foot Fortec dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB "ghetto moved" to various C-Band satellites
Third 6 foot Sadoun dish with GeoSatPro Prime Focus KU LNB on it for maximum rain fade combatting
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:34 AM
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Thanks Iceberg! I will try that!
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System 1: Pansat 2700a with a Moteck SG2100 HH motor drive and a Invacom universal .3 LNB mounted on a Primestar 1.2 meter dish. Also using a Primestar .75 meter with a .8 Channel Master LNB to receive AMC 3 channels (this is because of obstruction in its path!)
Using Extigy External soundcard to encode AC 3 audio.
System 2: Pansat 2000v as a slave receiver on the 4DTV GI 920 system that consists of a 1985 8 foot solid dish with a Cotorola II feed horn and 15 degree LNB. For C Band FTA use.
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Old 11-30-2009, 12:00 PM
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Dang!!!
i went outside and swap the LNBs (from the DGL-1189S Ku Twin LNBF to the standard 10750 LNBF) and the difference is HUGH!
I get all of G19 Tps with high quality readings. I decided just put a Dishnet dish to get NASA, etc.
I really am disappointed with the linear/circular LNBF....
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System 1: Pansat 2700a with a Moteck SG2100 HH motor drive and a Invacom universal .3 LNB mounted on a Primestar 1.2 meter dish. Also using a Primestar .75 meter with a .8 Channel Master LNB to receive AMC 3 channels (this is because of obstruction in its path!)
Using Extigy External soundcard to encode AC 3 audio.
System 2: Pansat 2000v as a slave receiver on the 4DTV GI 920 system that consists of a 1985 8 foot solid dish with a Cotorola II feed horn and 15 degree LNB. For C Band FTA use.
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