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    am I the only one that hates the new Lyngsat Beam Maps?

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    I can't even make out the numbers

    In my experience the former maps were accurate and you could at least see the letters and numbers


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    Actually, I'm noticing he no longer hosts the maps himself. A sampling of a few birds sent me to the owners website, one SES, one Intelsat. I'd guess he is trying to save bandwidth costs, to the users detriment, of course.

    What bird were you looking at there?

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    These beam maps are the ones published by the satellite owners.

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    That's 89 Ku Band, I barely get beam here in Central Mex. I'm not that lucky on 87, 91 where all those sweet sports feeds are , 99, 103 and 125

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwert1515 View Post
    These beam maps are the ones published by the satellite owners.

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    Intelsat Global Telecommunications Satellite Network


    the ones they had before were better for the eyes IMO


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    John,

    Try Satbeams.com instead, I think you will appreciate it once you become accustomed to the format and navigation. Their maps are "interactive" and you can zoom in/zoom out and paneast/west/north and south. You can even dial them in down to the city level and beyond. Very nice!

    It is all that I use now.

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    Try Satmaps, its even better.


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    Scott,

    Thanks for the heads up on this. But, I will have to tell you honestly that my first impression wasn't as good as Satbeams.

    I see many DN and DirecTV and other pay sat listings, but there aren't as many FTA sats as I would have hoped for. Unless I am missing them???

    I will have to spend more time with this, when I have more time. But, I have really become quite partial to Satbeams and I hope you will forgive my bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwert1515 View Post
    These beam maps are the ones published by the satellite owners.

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    Intelsat Global Telecommunications Satellite Network


    This could be a good thing in my view.
    Years ago, all of Lyngsats maps were the maps that came from the sat owners, but I'm guessing that he had copywrit problems putting maps up that he didn't own, plus some sat owners don't publish their maps, so Lyngsat switched to putting up their own version of the maps, and I've always wondered where they came from, and was dubious about their accuracy, since they didn't come from the sat owners.
    But if Lyngsat is going back to putting in links to the owners data, at least we can be assured that the maps are genuine rather than being his best guess at what the footprints are.

    Also notice that some sats don't show maps at all on Lyngsat. These days it just isn't as easy as it used to be to find footprint maps. You used to be able to find them for all sats, but it's not easy to find them anymore.

    Anyway, I'd rather have the sat owners map, even if low quality, and I'd rather have no map at all than a map of unknown source that may or may not be genuine.

    The thing I miss most about the current Lyngsat display vs the old Lyngsat is that for the past couple years, he no longer has the IF freq appear when you do a mouse-over of the transponder freq. Not that hard to calculate, and not important for DVB channels, but it was always handy for DCII channels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by B.J. View Post
    I've always wondered where they came from, and was dubious about their accuracy, since they didn't come from the sat owners.
    It probably came from the sat owners as they publish more data (If I remember correctly, the gain and a latitude / longitude coordinate) to the FCC database that is publicly available but very hard to find.

    EDIT - About a year ago I tried to parse the FCC data and here are a few examples of what I was able to get.
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