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    are the east and west feeds spotbeamed to different locations on this bird? I get NBC East and Central rock solid, mountain and pacific are all over the place on my signal meter and pixels and lockups happen all the time. Pent. and S. of peer channels are rock solid. Thanks.

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    103W KU Band has a weird skew. When it was launched the skew is 26 degrees OPPOSITE what it should be.

    The LNB skew is about the same for me at leats on 103W as if I was aiming at 74W.

    Check thelist at the top and see what the skew is...here is an example of the different skew for me in Minneapolis

    101.0°W AMC 2.4 C/Ku
    36.0° elevation
    189.0° azimuth
    6.9°L skew

    103.0°W AMC 1 Ku (Skewed)
    35.7° elevation
    191.7° azimuth
    -17.3°R skew

    105.0°W AMC 15.18 Ku
    35.4° elevation
    194.4° azimuth
    10.6°L skew
    Winegard 76cm dish, SG2100 motor, Sadoun dual KU LNB..... Directv Slimline SWM 3 LNB.... GeoSatPro 36" dish with Sadoun dual KU LNB... Coolsat 5000 on motorized.... Manhattan RS1933....Directv HR34 (yes the 5 tuner monster) GeoSatPro 200 to aim dishes.... few receivers not set up yet
    Two 6 foot Fortec dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB "ghetto moved" to various C-Band satellites

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    thanks, been working on peaking this bird along with the others all day.

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    If your dish is mounted on a motor, 103W is really tough to get, especially if you're after the S2 channels. Due to the skew issue, it is a good idea to use a fixed dish on this satellite.
    Current systems: 2X Visionsat IV-200 PVRs; Pansat 2700; Digitrans DTE-7150 DVB/Digicipher II; Twinhan and Nexus-S PC DVB cards; SiliconDust HDHomeRun ATSC/QAM networked tuners; fixed 1 meter Channel Master dish with Eagle Aspen P870 FSS Ku-Band stacked LNB; 2X 3ABN 36" dishes with Invacom QPH-031 Ku/DBS-Band LNBFs on Moteck SG-2100 H-H motors; fixed Sadoun SD180G 1.8 meter dish with Eagle Aspen B1SAT STACK C-Band stacked LNBF; Winegard Square Shooter OTA DTV antenna

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    can't get it on my fixed dish. I get pentagon with perfect solid lock with great signal strength, but NBC's signal won't lock no matter where I move the skew. I'm using a 10' mesh dish with a mover and a 3' ku solid stationary located at 63W right now for pbs that I don't even watch. I would like to get the stationary locked on 103, but no luck signal is all over the place on H skew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tron View Post
    If your dish is mounted on a motor, 103W is really tough to get, especially if you're after the S2 channels. Due to the skew issue, it is a good idea to use a fixed dish on this satellite.
    Just run a seprate linear LNB for 103 with the skew adjusted appropriately. On my 1.2M dish I have 3 lnb's with a saved motor position for 103 on the third lnb. That way a dedicated lnb can be skewed for this satellite and it won't effect the reception on the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tron View Post
    If your dish is mounted on a motor, 103W is really tough to get, especially if you're after the S2 channels. Due to the skew issue, it is a good idea to use a fixed dish on this satellite.
    I've had this sat for a long time with my motorized dish....never had a problem.

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    you may get some of the channels but I bet all the NBC news feeds dont show up

    vertical side seems to compensate for the oddball skew just fine. Horizontal...not so much
    Winegard 76cm dish, SG2100 motor, Sadoun dual KU LNB..... Directv Slimline SWM 3 LNB.... GeoSatPro 36" dish with Sadoun dual KU LNB... Coolsat 5000 on motorized.... Manhattan RS1933....Directv HR34 (yes the 5 tuner monster) GeoSatPro 200 to aim dishes.... few receivers not set up yet
    Two 6 foot Fortec dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB "ghetto moved" to various C-Band satellites

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arion View Post
    Just run a seprate linear LNB for 103 with the skew adjusted appropriately. On my 1.2M dish I have 3 lnb's with a saved motor position for 103 on the third lnb. That way a dedicated lnb can be skewed for this satellite and it won't effect the reception on the others.
    This is a good alternative to a fixed dish if space is an issue. The fact that there are many desirable DVB-S2 channels, which are often touchy in ideal circumstances, complicates matters with this satellite. I will be erecting a 1.2 meter Prodelin fixed on 103W before the 2012 Summer Olympics.
    Current systems: 2X Visionsat IV-200 PVRs; Pansat 2700; Digitrans DTE-7150 DVB/Digicipher II; Twinhan and Nexus-S PC DVB cards; SiliconDust HDHomeRun ATSC/QAM networked tuners; fixed 1 meter Channel Master dish with Eagle Aspen P870 FSS Ku-Band stacked LNB; 2X 3ABN 36" dishes with Invacom QPH-031 Ku/DBS-Band LNBFs on Moteck SG-2100 H-H motors; fixed Sadoun SD180G 1.8 meter dish with Eagle Aspen B1SAT STACK C-Band stacked LNBF; Winegard Square Shooter OTA DTV antenna

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    If nothing blows up, AMC1 will be replaced by SES3 before then. Hopefully they don't change the antenna alignment on SES3 to match the broken one, but I haven't heard anything about it either way.
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