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Thread: Montana PBS Cure

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    Other than Montana PBS, I have never had any problem with any other S2 signal on the various dishes and LNBs that I have, except for the standard reasons of a really low SQ due to either dish size (on a 60e, for example), or LNB distance from the dish centre, or lack of uplink/downlink power.

    Montana PBS has never had a low SQ for me, always in the 70s to high 80s (usually 78-80 range). It has always been either the same SQ as OETA, or slightly lower. It was usually higher than LPB when it was on the satellite. Never have had any problems with OETA or LPB. When LPB had its nightly drop off episode, the signal would be fine until it dropped into the 40s. Yet Montana PBS could rarely hold its signal 30 odd points higher.

    My dish and LNB skew have always been peaked for Montana PBS. I am also in the 50 dBW EIRP area footprint.

    As has been documented on this site (and others) there is a problem with the Montana PBS signal which isn't based solely on dish size (though a larger dish has helped some) or any other factors that normally would easily account for the problems.

    For me, the switching of LNBs worked, and I only assume that the Fortec Star universal, and, obviously, higher end LNBs, are able to consistently hold the signal throughout whatever the signal problem is, whether frequency drift from the source, etc.
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    Fortec 80cm: Amazonas2 (61), AMC6 (72) / Ariza 80cm: G19 (97), AMC1 (103), Echo11 (110) / Fortec 80cm: Echo7 (119), AMC21 (125) / Ariza 80cm: G18 (123) / Star Choice 75e: Echo12 (61.5), AMC6 (72)(spare), AMC9 (83), SES2 (87), G25 (93) / SC 60e: AMC16 (85), G28 (89) / SC 60e: G11 (91), G3C (95), SES1 (101) / SC 60e: (107.3), (111.1) SC subscription dish (+FTA)
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    Quick update. Had some rain last night, Montana PBS SQ dropped to 60-61 (down from the usual 78-80) and the signal still locked and held (no pixelation at all).
    AZBox Ultra HD + Pansat 3500SD + EMP Centauri 8x1 + 4x1 DiSEqC + 22KHz switches
    Fortec 80cm: Amazonas2 (61), AMC6 (72) / Ariza 80cm: G19 (97), AMC1 (103), Echo11 (110) / Fortec 80cm: Echo7 (119), AMC21 (125) / Ariza 80cm: G18 (123) / Star Choice 75e: Echo12 (61.5), AMC6 (72)(spare), AMC9 (83), SES2 (87), G25 (93) / SC 60e: AMC16 (85), G28 (89) / SC 60e: G11 (91), G3C (95), SES1 (101) / SC 60e: (107.3), (111.1) SC subscription dish (+FTA)
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    So whats the actual model number?
    I did a search,and came up with at least 3 differant styles single universal lnbs by fortec star.
    I'm wuilling to try a new lnb,but would like to know which one specific your using.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southofi-10 View Post
    So whats the actual model number?
    I did a search,and came up with at least 3 differant styles single universal lnbs by fortec star.
    I'm wuilling to try a new lnb,but would like to know which one specific your using.
    The model number is FSKU-V.
    AZBox Ultra HD + Pansat 3500SD + EMP Centauri 8x1 + 4x1 DiSEqC + 22KHz switches
    Fortec 80cm: Amazonas2 (61), AMC6 (72) / Ariza 80cm: G19 (97), AMC1 (103), Echo11 (110) / Fortec 80cm: Echo7 (119), AMC21 (125) / Ariza 80cm: G18 (123) / Star Choice 75e: Echo12 (61.5), AMC6 (72)(spare), AMC9 (83), SES2 (87), G25 (93) / SC 60e: AMC16 (85), G28 (89) / SC 60e: G11 (91), G3C (95), SES1 (101) / SC 60e: (107.3), (111.1) SC subscription dish (+FTA)
    Avatar: 2008 setup 61.5, 72 or 74 (selectable), 79, 87

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    Thanks
    I'll test it and see if I get the same results.
    And report.
    Just for your info_ I also found these fortec lnb universal signal..
    FSKU-K,,FSKU-VN,,FSHD-LO1

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    Quote Originally Posted by southofi-10 View Post
    Thanks
    I'll test it and see if I get the same results.
    And report.
    Just for your info_ I also found these fortec lnb universal signal..
    FSKU-K,,FSKU-VN,,FSHD-LO1
    Good luck, hope you get the same results as I did.
    AZBox Ultra HD + Pansat 3500SD + EMP Centauri 8x1 + 4x1 DiSEqC + 22KHz switches
    Fortec 80cm: Amazonas2 (61), AMC6 (72) / Ariza 80cm: G19 (97), AMC1 (103), Echo11 (110) / Fortec 80cm: Echo7 (119), AMC21 (125) / Ariza 80cm: G18 (123) / Star Choice 75e: Echo12 (61.5), AMC6 (72)(spare), AMC9 (83), SES2 (87), G25 (93) / SC 60e: AMC16 (85), G28 (89) / SC 60e: G11 (91), G3C (95), SES1 (101) / SC 60e: (107.3), (111.1) SC subscription dish (+FTA)
    Avatar: 2008 setup 61.5, 72 or 74 (selectable), 79, 87

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    I tried the fortec lnb without any improvement.
    I did get improvement with a NEW Chaparral Universal LNB Single Lnbf. (c&p)
    This is a great lnb at only 7.99 from satpro.tv.
    Super fast shipping-Good service
    The signal still bounces,but doesn't drop out completely as before.The signal quality is only around 35,but it's enough for my op10 to lock on and give a watchable channel.
    So with all this,I guess it comes down to your receiver,location,size of dish and lnb.Among a few other things,LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by southofi-10 View Post
    I tried the fortec lnb without any improvement.
    I did get improvement with a NEW Chaparral Universal LNB Single Lnbf. (c&p)
    This is a great lnb at only 7.99 from satpro.tv.
    Super fast shipping-Good service
    The signal still bounces,but doesn't drop out completely as before.The signal quality is only around 35,but it's enough for my op10 to lock on and give a watchable channel.
    So with all this,I guess it comes down to your receiver,location,size of dish and lnb.Among a few other things,LOL
    While the Fortec Star didn't work for you (might be the low SQ?), at least you did find improvement with a different LNB from the one you were originally using. Any way to get a watchable Montana PBS by changing LNBs is definitely an extra option to the usual "get a bigger dish" cry!
    AZBox Ultra HD + Pansat 3500SD + EMP Centauri 8x1 + 4x1 DiSEqC + 22KHz switches
    Fortec 80cm: Amazonas2 (61), AMC6 (72) / Ariza 80cm: G19 (97), AMC1 (103), Echo11 (110) / Fortec 80cm: Echo7 (119), AMC21 (125) / Ariza 80cm: G18 (123) / Star Choice 75e: Echo12 (61.5), AMC6 (72)(spare), AMC9 (83), SES2 (87), G25 (93) / SC 60e: AMC16 (85), G28 (89) / SC 60e: G11 (91), G3C (95), SES1 (101) / SC 60e: (107.3), (111.1) SC subscription dish (+FTA)
    Avatar: 2008 setup 61.5, 72 or 74 (selectable), 79, 87

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    I could have put up a bigger dish,but I figured it wasn't worth that much trouble for 1 channel.
    2 maybe,but not 1.
    And maybe if I had,I might be getting a stronger quality and much better signal.
    But as I said before.All that trouble is not worth it in my opinion.
    As you suggested Kieth,it might well be worth swapping lnbs and see what happens.My swap never changed the signal on the other transponders.
    I do find it unusual that this signal "bounces"or "pulses" like that.But I find alot of things unusual,LOL

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