Thread: Review: Sonicview SV-HD8000

Originally Posted by zamar23

While generally encouraging you to continue posting your findings, may I suggest you to look objectively at them:

1. At this time there are just a few STBs on the market capable to process sat TV signals with 4:2:2 color space and adherent to DVB-S2 standard. These things are not "simple" as you put it, but in fact quite complicated to deal with, requiring next gen equipment;

2. Non of the things you mentioned was ever advertised by the STB manufacturer in its spec., which is posted on
Sonicview

site and is very easy to locate (not "very difficult"). Consumers are expected to educate themselves and research product specs before making informed buying decision.

3. While most sat dealers know nothing about chipsets used in STBs, if you were to ask, any Sonicview approved dealer would tell you, 8psk add on boards for SV 8000HD will NOT help receiving DVB-S2 signals, because this STB, to put it simple, doesn't have hardware required for it.

Actually, it doesn't make sense to blame an STB for not doing something that is not listed in its official spec. Likewise, no 8spk add-on board's ad ever claimed it will allow to receive DVB-S2 or 4:2:2 signals. Sonicview never recommended to use 8psk add-on boards, but if one googles "A1 8psk module" before buying it, plenty of info can be found.

Sorry, I missed your post.

So bottom line - Sonicview SV-HD8000 does not process 4:2:2 or S2. Simple was used to circumvent the turbo issue that is quite often lurking in queries. That answers most the questions I get asked.

Some dealers do commit to S2 capabilities at least on the phone as does the Sonicview firmware.

I find absolutely no mention of the 8PSK card on the Sonicview site. As they don't make it that does not surprise me.

I always try discouraging people to bash receivers for a simple reason: bashing will not make someone stealing TV signal look innocent; and likewise for a honest TV watcher there is no need to bash any receiver to remain innocent, claiming it doesn't do...what its spec never said it can do. Some watch stolen signals while they can, but once it gets a lot less enjoyable due to ECM, start bashing the receivers they admired so much. This is not the right website to express such frustration.

There were NO recently reported issues with reliability of the STB's S/PDIF connector or playing clear video channels with synchronized digital audio pass through. Check if your optical cable is held firmly in the port.

If you want to receive DVB-S2 and 4:2:2 signals on cheap, my suggestion is to look at latest Sat PC Cards and USB devices. You can buy one for under $100 shipped, and this forum has valuable info about them in a separate section. Expect to follow substantial learning curve required to install, setup and enjoy using such device, and you may need to use specific software to address your particular needs. Good luck!

Originally Posted by zamar23

There is no video and/or audio interruption on any CLEAR VIDEO channels, when using recent releases of SV 8000HD firmware.

The video/audio problem magically disappeared on its own!

I only watch true fta signals (no hacking). The most recent ligit release is 2.50 version (though some report 2.57 which I couldn't locate on the official sonicview website). I opted to use 4.43, 'cause at one time was available at the sonicview website and I consider it ligit.

Now I'm wondering if using latest bin files (such as 485 or 487) released by third party may offer any advantage over the 4.43 file and if can improve watching true fta channels. I'm thinking that some bugs may have been fixed...

Originally Posted by skipticum

The video/audio problem magically disappeared on its own!

I only watch true fta signals (no hacking).

It's Christmas, can we get passed the finger pointing and weird witch hunting implicit in some posts. It is not nice. To paraphrase - firmware doesn't steal signal, people do.

Originally Posted by skipticum

Now I'm wondering if using latest bin files (such as 485 or 487) released by third party may offer any advantage over the 4.43 file and if can improve watching true fta channels. I'm thinking that some bugs may have been fixed...

Are you putting too much emphasis on firmware? I switched out the Sonicview for a Blu-ray last night and my audio amplifier was shown to be the intermittent audio signal culprit. (I have had it for years but only used it for CD and FM.)

I can't reply to your challenge in post 87 without going off topic here. I tried to PM you but don't have that permission yet. Post a way I can respond to you or will sat doc work?

Originally Posted by skipticum

The LPB channel mentioned in jww post is in dvb-s2 "standard" 8PSK demodulation, and I'm not sure if the A-1 add on board for the sonicview 8000 supports that format. I am personnally still looking to yet find concrete proof (based on testing) that it supports regular 8PSK demodulation as it does for Turbo 8PSK, but with dvb-s2 system and not just dvb-s Turbo 8PSK.

A few interesting true fta channels (i.e., NBC AMC 1 (103 W)) are now broadcasting in dvb-s2 "standard" 8PSK format.

I am only interested in TRUE FTA, and i'm wondering if the present 8PSK add-on module of sonicview 8000 (or a different one, if it exists) supports DVB-s2 8PSK (not only Turbo 8PSK) broadcasts. I have searched in many places, and I couldn't find clear information on this subject. I'm certain that sv 8000 able to tune MPEG 4 HD, but I was not able to tune dvb-s2 8psk (modulation) with either MPEG 2 or MPEG 4 (SD and HD).

Before I go ahead and acquire an module (like the A-1), I need to find out if this same module that supports Turbo 8PSK (and I have no interest in hacking dick or bev) can support standard dvb-s2 8PSK. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Unfortunately, no 8PSK module for the SV-8000 supports DVB-S2 at this time. As a rule of thumb, if the module is designed for Turbo 8PSK, it won't support DVB-S2 8PSK as there are currently no modules supporting both formats available for any FTA receiver to my knowledge.

Originally Posted by jwwbrennan

GoSatellite, where I bought it, states FTA 8PSK capability on their website ("The Sonicview 8000 HD 8PSK module board enables the Sonicview 8000 HD to receive high definition DVB (8PSK) free to air channels"). Now when I look at mode selection in the transponder list there are DVB QPSK, Turbo 8PSK, Turbo QPSK, DVB-S2-8PSK, DVB-S2-QPSK. I am ordering a larger dish in an attempt to get Louisiana. If that works I will post here. If it fails I will have a serious talk with GoSatellite.

Those extra DVB-S2 options were added on the 3rd party firmware as legal decoys since it would look pretty bad legally to have "Turbo" as the only 8PSK option added when the module is installed. As stated previously, there are NO add on modules supporting DVB-S2 8PSK currently available for the SV-8000.

Unfortunately, it looks like you were yet another victim of GoSatellite's misleading advertising. As you probably realize now, they strictly focus on selling hacker boxes so they have to protect themselves legally as well. This is why they will only state that it's an "8PSK module" for all the Turbo 8PSK modules they sell.

Originally Posted by wildcatae

I can't reply to your challenge in post 87 without going off topic here. I tried to PM you but don't have that permission yet. Post a way I can respond to you or will sat doc work?

Better get postin' then! I believe you need 20 posts before you can PM. You may also choose to unban my account on the forum you moderate.

pwrsurge

You probably missed my (Review: Sonicview SV-HD8000)post about the same thing. Or you just wanted to add a legal aspect to it, which seems to be well argumented. However, I think various hardware limitations of the STB dictate modulation choice, since the importer would be happy to add S2 reception, if only possible and of course cost effective.