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    Review: SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Pro Dual Standard KU LNBF

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    Product:
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Pro Dual Standard KU LNBF

    Supplier:
    Satellite AV, LLC

    Price:
    $30 (Special 50% discount now available from Satellite AV, LLC for the holidays) http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air...ellite-av.html

    Shipping:
    I was really impressed that this LNBF arrived after only 2 days and was very well packaged in a box surrounded by packing peanuts. Some other suppliers simply ship their LNBF's within a bubbled envelope to reduce costs in order to generate a higher profit.

    Introduction:
    I would like to thank Brian Gohl from Satellite AV, LLC for supplying this SL2 dual standard LNBF for testing. Satellite AV, LLC has always offered quality FTA satellite products and this LNBF is no exception.

    Specifications:
    Input Frequency: 11.7 - 12.75 GHz
    Gain: 60 dB (typical)
    Output Frequency: 950-2000 MHz
    L.O. Frequency: 10.75 GHz
    Noise Figure: 0.4 dB (typical)

    Date Tested:
    November 22-23 2010

    Equipment Used During Testing:
    Dish: Channel Master 1.2m (4')
    Receiver: Openbox S9 HD PVR FTA Satellite Receiver

    Installation:
    Installation was simple since the LNBF has a groove along the top indicating a zero degree skew. However, I must point out that unlike other LNBF's this LNBF had to be pushed all the way into the Channel Master LNBF mount in order to receive the highest possible signal. I first installed it having the front of the LNBF flush with the front of the Channel Master LNBF mount like I do with other brands of LNBF's, but the signal strengths received were very low and not stable. Once properly adjusted this dual standard LNBF outperformed two other 0.4dB universal LNBF's that I tested. One of them even failed, so I continued my testing using only one 0.4dB universal LNBF to compare test results.

    Test Results:

    AMC 6 (MSNBC) 11704V
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 89 Quality 32
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 90 Quality 60-67

    AMC 9 (TUFF TV) 11734H
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 86 Quality 65
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 90 Quality 58

    AMC 3 (English) 11736V
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 87 Quality 65
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 90 Quality 73

    GALAXY 28 (ABC News Now) 11954V
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 87 Quality 72
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 88 Quality 73

    GALAXY 17 (T/ANT E/S) 12187V
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 89 Quality 70
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 88 Quality 71

    GALAXY 25 (Azteca 13) 11983V
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 88 Quality 67
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 89 Quality 73

    GALAXY C3 (MAC TV) 12049H
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 86 Quality 76
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 86 Quality 77

    GALAXY 19 (Kuwait 2) 11788V
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 85 Quality 75
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 87 Quality 75

    GALAXY 16 (CBS Newspath) 11784V
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 85 Quality 70
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 88 Quality 60

    SES 1 (BIO) 12059H
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 86 Quality 72
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 86 Quality 76

    AMC 1 (MS20) 11940V
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 85 Quality 76
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 86 Quality 76

    AMC 15 (Macy's) 11855V
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 86 Quality 67
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 88 Quality 70

    SATMEX 6 (DA-A1) 12079H
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 86 Quality 73
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 86 Quality 74

    GALAXY 18 (Daystar) 12134V
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 87 Quality 71
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 87 Quality 71

    AMC 21 (LPB2 PBS) 12071H
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 87 Quality 72
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 88 Quality 72

    AMC 21 (Telarty PBS) 12096V
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 87 Quality 70
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 87 Quality 70

    AMC 21 (Montana PBS) DVB-S2 12105V
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 87 Quality 70
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 88 Quality 73

    AMC 21 (OTEA PBS) DVB-S2 12112V
    Sadoun 0.4dB Universal LNBF: Intensity 87 Quality 83
    SL2 Bullet GEOSAT Standard LNBF: Intensity 87 Quality 85

    Product Strengths:
    •Small in size and lightweight
    •Dual outputs
    •Locked DVB-S2 signals better
    •Signal intensity and quality was very stable on all channels

    Product Weaknesses:
    •Found none

    Conclusion:
    I highly recommend this product! In fact, it will remain on my 4' KU motorized dish as the primary LNBF.

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    Dishes: 240cm (8') WS International Dish, C-Band * 180cm (6') Fortec Dish, C-Band * 180cm (6') Channel Master Dish, C-Band * 120cm (4') Channel Master Dish, SG2100 H-H, KU-Band * 36" X 26" Channel Master (StarBand) Dish, DBS * 18" Dish, DirecTV, DSS LNBF * Dish 1000+, Dish Network
    OTA Antennas: Terk TV-32 UHF Antenna, (Pittsburgh, PA locals) * Antennacraft MXU59 UHF Antenna, (Johnstown, PA locals)
    Receivers: VIP722 Dish Network * Coolsat 4000 Premium * Coolsat 6100 PVR * Openbox S9 HD PVR * Motorola DSR-410DS

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    Unlike the Spitfire Elite Universal LNBF this SL2 GEOSATpro Dual Standard LNBF comes with a coax rubber boot to help protect the "F" connector from the weather.

    I'll be performing additional testing of this LNBF throughout the next several months and will add the results to this review.

    Dishes: 240cm (8') WS International Dish, C-Band * 180cm (6') Fortec Dish, C-Band * 180cm (6') Channel Master Dish, C-Band * 120cm (4') Channel Master Dish, SG2100 H-H, KU-Band * 36" X 26" Channel Master (StarBand) Dish, DBS * 18" Dish, DirecTV, DSS LNBF * Dish 1000+, Dish Network
    OTA Antennas: Terk TV-32 UHF Antenna, (Pittsburgh, PA locals) * Antennacraft MXU59 UHF Antenna, (Johnstown, PA locals)
    Receivers: VIP722 Dish Network * Coolsat 4000 Premium * Coolsat 6100 PVR * Openbox S9 HD PVR * Motorola DSR-410DS

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    I was just sitting here thinking (I wonder if I now receive the "Ch 17 NBC Occasional" and "Universal Sports" on AMC1 KU band now that I have the SL2 Bullet LNBF installed)? These are two channels that often couldn't be received or had low signal strengths and often broke up using other brand LNBF's during my testing.

    To my surprise this was my finding:
    Ch 17 NBC Occasional:
    Signal Intensity: solid 85%
    Signal Quality: solid 72%

    Universal Sports:
    Signal Intensity: solid 86%
    Signal Quality: solid 72%

    Unfortunatly, I don't have time to remove the SL2 and install other brand LNBF's to compare since we are getting ready for Thanksgiving, but plan on doing so after the holiday.

    I also want to compare the SL2 LNBF with the JSC321S-2 LNBF's that DMS is sending me as replacements for the failed Spitfire Elite LNBF's.

    Dishes: 240cm (8') WS International Dish, C-Band * 180cm (6') Fortec Dish, C-Band * 180cm (6') Channel Master Dish, C-Band * 120cm (4') Channel Master Dish, SG2100 H-H, KU-Band * 36" X 26" Channel Master (StarBand) Dish, DBS * 18" Dish, DirecTV, DSS LNBF * Dish 1000+, Dish Network
    OTA Antennas: Terk TV-32 UHF Antenna, (Pittsburgh, PA locals) * Antennacraft MXU59 UHF Antenna, (Johnstown, PA locals)
    Receivers: VIP722 Dish Network * Coolsat 4000 Premium * Coolsat 6100 PVR * Openbox S9 HD PVR * Motorola DSR-410DS

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    I still can't get over the HD quality of the Openbox S9 HD PVR receiver along with the SL2 Bullet GEOSATpro Standard KU LNBF.

    Attached are some photos that just don't do them justice. The HD on the Ch 17 NBC Occasional feed looks awesome!
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    Dishes: 240cm (8') WS International Dish, C-Band * 180cm (6') Fortec Dish, C-Band * 180cm (6') Channel Master Dish, C-Band * 120cm (4') Channel Master Dish, SG2100 H-H, KU-Band * 36" X 26" Channel Master (StarBand) Dish, DBS * 18" Dish, DirecTV, DSS LNBF * Dish 1000+, Dish Network
    OTA Antennas: Terk TV-32 UHF Antenna, (Pittsburgh, PA locals) * Antennacraft MXU59 UHF Antenna, (Johnstown, PA locals)
    Receivers: VIP722 Dish Network * Coolsat 4000 Premium * Coolsat 6100 PVR * Openbox S9 HD PVR * Motorola DSR-410DS

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    very nicely done
    I've worked with the single LNB version and had great results too
    Winegard 76cm dish, SG2100 motor, Sadoun dual KU LNB..... Directv Slimline SWM 3 LNB.... GeoSatPro 36" dish with Sadoun dual KU LNB... Coolsat 5000 on motorized.... Manhattan RS1933....Directv HR34 (yes the 5 tuner monster) GeoSatPro 200 to aim dishes.... few receivers not set up yet
    Two 6 foot Fortec dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB "ghetto moved" to various C-Band satellites

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    Thank you Iceberg. I also noticed that the images now show as thumbprints which is really nice.

    Thinking more about the SL2 barrel GEOSATpro LNBF I realized that I really like how it can be adjusted back and forth to get the best focal point. Most other KU LNBF's I have tried have very little room for adjustment within the Channel Master LNBF holder, so I usually push the front of the LNBF close to the Channel Master LNBF holder and tighten. I'm beginning to think this is probably why the two NBC channels that were always hard to receive are now being received as good as the other NBC channels on that satellite.

    Dishes: 240cm (8') WS International Dish, C-Band * 180cm (6') Fortec Dish, C-Band * 180cm (6') Channel Master Dish, C-Band * 120cm (4') Channel Master Dish, SG2100 H-H, KU-Band * 36" X 26" Channel Master (StarBand) Dish, DBS * 18" Dish, DirecTV, DSS LNBF * Dish 1000+, Dish Network
    OTA Antennas: Terk TV-32 UHF Antenna, (Pittsburgh, PA locals) * Antennacraft MXU59 UHF Antenna, (Johnstown, PA locals)
    Receivers: VIP722 Dish Network * Coolsat 4000 Premium * Coolsat 6100 PVR * Openbox S9 HD PVR * Motorola DSR-410DS

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    Had great clear weather and a few dozen manufacturer samples to test..... Tested a few dozen potential new LNBF samples as candidates for a new GEOSATpro LNBF model.

    Here are some results of current distribution units which may be of interest.

    This test is comparing:
    • GEOSATpro SL2b / 0.4NR
    • GEOSATpro SL1b / 0.4NR
    • Invacom SNH-031 / 0.3NR
    • DMS JSC321s / 0.3NR
    • DMS GK411-60 Spitfire / 0.1NR
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    What size dish did you use Brian during your testing? I like how you took samples at various transponders and then came up with an average. I have most of these LNB's myself and will be performing more testing once the weather gets better.

    Dishes: 240cm (8') WS International Dish, C-Band * 180cm (6') Fortec Dish, C-Band * 180cm (6') Channel Master Dish, C-Band * 120cm (4') Channel Master Dish, SG2100 H-H, KU-Band * 36" X 26" Channel Master (StarBand) Dish, DBS * 18" Dish, DirecTV, DSS LNBF * Dish 1000+, Dish Network
    OTA Antennas: Terk TV-32 UHF Antenna, (Pittsburgh, PA locals) * Antennacraft MXU59 UHF Antenna, (Johnstown, PA locals)
    Receivers: VIP722 Dish Network * Coolsat 4000 Premium * Coolsat 6100 PVR * Openbox S9 HD PVR * Motorola DSR-410DS

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    Used a GEOSATpro 90cm dish.
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    Thanks for the review. I am planning on buying one of these.
    Just wondering if you tested both ports? I have some dual ports (different brands) and I get a little different quality/strength on each port per lnb. This is usualy not an issue unless the signal is marginal to begin with.

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