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    OpenBox S10 MPEG-4 HD receiver review

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    Review of the OpenBox S10 FTA HD satellite receiver.
    11-12-2011

    My receiver was purchased from the ebay seller shop4fta for $99.99 delivered. I got the receiver, remote with batteries, an HDMI cable, and a set of RCA type cables.

    It arrived with a European satellite list installed. The seller promptly furnished S9/S10 firmware with North American satellite list when contacted. After installing this firmware I had the usual default to PAl video mode on bootup, rolling picture trouble. Since I had it hooked up to an RGB monitor, I was able to adjust the vertical hold and stumble through the menus until I found a compatible video mode.

    The video format button on the remote will not function unless the receiver is in receive or playback mode. To put it another way, this button is useless in the menu screens to correct the rolling picture at bootup with new firmware.

    After fooling with it on the test bench with the replacement firmware from shop4fta and confirming that it worked okay, I downloaded and installed the latest firmware from
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    This firmware also had a European satellite list, so I downloaded and installed the North American satellite list for the Openbox S9/S10 from this forum.

    The latest available firmware load worked okay when tested, so the next day I installed the new OpenBox as our primary FTA receiver. After using it for a few days, I offer the following observations.

    The receiver is tiny. A non-contact thermometer shows a maximum top of case temperature of 103 degress Fahrenheit with an ambient room temperature of 72. 30 degrees above ambient is fine, and cooler than many home video/audio devices run.

    The owner's manual is the typical Chinglish booklet, printed in fuzzy black and white. I downloaded a full color PDF owner's manual from Shenzen Wanying, and printed it out in larger format. Much better, but a sixth grade English teacher would hardly give it a passing grade.

    The good:
    Performance is great for the price. The tuner seems more sensitive than my Coolsat 6000 or CNX Mini on MPEG-2 signals. Picture quality using the RCA cables connected to an RGB monitor is excellent. Diseqc and 22KHz switches are controlled without issues. It's great to be able to tune MPEG-4 signals; there are more of them all the time.

    The Bad:
    The remote lacks a mute button. Every firmware I have tried defaults to PAl video mode on initial bootup, and you will have the well-documented rolling screen trouble.

    The ugly:
    It's a cheap receiver assembled at one of many factories in China. Their biggest market is the eye-patch buyers in Europe, and the firmware is designed for that use. Firmware updates for the North American true FTA market are non-existant. We get European firmware with a North American satellite list. All firmware that I have loaded boots up in PAL video mode and the screen rolls on initial bootup when the RCA cable video output is used on a North American TV.

    Summary: It's cheap and it does the job. Picture quality is excellent. Difficult to setup for North American FTA use. If you can afford to spend a little more and get a better receiver, you should probably do so.

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    Good review!!!

    2 things: it does have a mute button, or at least the couple I have does. Also I do not feel it is all that difficult for NA use.(my opinion).

    Real good review though!!!
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    I'm considering Manhattan next. Openbox does a nice job for the price, but the quirks of the freezing/stuttering video (August firmware installed) and needing channel editor, and a couple other small quirks make it an "experimenters" box, not a box for "FTA set-it-up and enjoy." Lately I have to occasionally reboot after the dish lands on its destination before the video sets to the channel selected. Odd.
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    I have the "v4" remote, and there is no mute button on it. There may be a mute function somewhere in the menu system, but I have not found it.

    The only stuttering/freezing I have noted with the latest firmware is due to low signal, like on Montana PBS when the AMC21 dish is peaked for LPBS.

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    Don't use any firmware past the 7/17/11 release my experience it keeps freezing and you have to reboot it every so many minutes. Stay with 7/17/11 till they fix it. I tried them all and today finally resorted to that release and it hasn't froze for hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwm View Post

    Review of the OpenBox S10 FTA HD satellite receiver.
    11-12-2011

    My receiver was purchased from the ebay seller shop4fta for $99.99 delivered. I got the receiver, remote with batteries, an HDMI cable, and a set of RCA type cables.

    It arrived with a European satellite list installed. The seller promptly furnished S9/S10 firmware with North American satellite list when contacted. After installing this firmware I had the usual default to PAl video mode on bootup, rolling picture trouble. Since I had it hooked up to an RGB monitor, I was able to adjust the vertical hold and stumble through the menus until I found a compatible video mode.

    The video format button on the remote will not function unless the receiver is in receive or playback mode. To put it another way, this button is useless in the menu screens to correct the rolling picture at bootup with new firmware.

    After fooling with it on the test bench with the replacement firmware from shop4fta and confirming that it worked okay, I downloaded and installed the latest firmware from
    Shenzen Wanying


    This firmware also had a European satellite list, so I downloaded and installed the North American satellite list for the Openbox S9/S10 from this forum.

    The latest available firmware load worked okay when tested, so the next day I installed the new OpenBox as our primary FTA receiver. After using it for a few days, I offer the following observations.

    The receiver is tiny. A non-contact thermometer shows a maximum top of case temperature of 103 degress Fahrenheit with an ambient room temperature of 72. 30 degrees above ambient is fine, and cooler than many home video/audio devices run.

    The owner's manual is the typical Chinglish booklet, printed in fuzzy black and white. I downloaded a full color PDF owner's manual from Shenzen Wanying, and printed it out in larger format. Much better, but a sixth grade English teacher would hardly give it a passing grade.

    The good:
    Performance is great for the price. The tuner seems more sensitive than my Coolsat 6000 or CNX Mini on MPEG-2 signals. Picture quality using the RCA cables connected to an RGB monitor is excellent. Diseqc and 22KHz switches are controlled without issues. It's great to be able to tune MPEG-4 signals; there are more of them all the time.

    The Bad:
    The remote lacks a mute button. Every firmware I have tried defaults to PAl video mode on initial bootup, and you will have the well-documented rolling screen trouble.

    The ugly:
    It's a cheap receiver assembled at one of many factories in China. Their biggest market is the eye-patch buyers in Europe, and the firmware is designed for that use. Firmware updates for the North American true FTA market are non-existant. We get European firmware with a North American satellite list. All firmware that I have loaded boots up in PAL video mode and the screen rolls on initial bootup when the RCA cable video output is used on a North American TV.

    Summary: It's cheap and it does the job. Picture quality is excellent. Difficult to setup for North American FTA use. If you can afford to spend a little more and get a better receiver, you should probably do so.

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    Moderators, please move this to the review section if desired.
    Really strange I recently got an S10 and have had none of the problems you have described. Never has the unit started up in PAL. So I'm not sure my unit had the same firmware that yours had installed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by whatchel1 View Post
    Really strange I recently got an S10 and have had none of the problems you have described. Never has the unit started up in PAL. So I'm not sure my unit had the same firmware that yours had installed.
    Mine did not start up in PAl video mode with the original firmware as delivered. But every downloaded firmware including the replacement firmware from the dealer has booted up in PAL mode for me and rolled vertically when using the RCA cable output. I have not tested it with the HDMI output, and cannot comment on that aspect of its performance.

    The incompatible video mode on bootup when loaded with new firmware is the main reason I rate it as difficult to setup for North American FTA use. And then there is the matter of all the confusing menu options for European pirate use.
    Last edited by hwm; 11-12-2011 at 11:06 PM. Reason: clarity

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    That pic you posted shows a mute button, does it just not function?
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    I also see in the pic you posted the Speaker with a X in the upper right corner of the remote. That's the Mute button
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwm View Post

    Review of the OpenBox S10 FTA HD satellite receiver.
    11-12-2011

    My receiver was purchased from the ebay seller shop4fta for $99.99 delivered.
    Good review for the S10.
    Even though my receiver was the S9 from a different Ebay seller, it work very well. No complaints what so ever.

    I have to congratulate you on such success with the dealer you purchased it from. My first unit from them was DOA. After three weeks of "fixes" from them I finally was allowed to return the unit. After three weeks wait and three Emails they finally sent a new unit. This one has no output power to the LNB's and no 22Khz output. Am still working on getting this, IMHO, worthless company to send me a radio that works. This has now taken over three months. Useless customer service. I have to state NEVER purchase from that company!
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