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Thread: Lip Sync Issues

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    I'm using a Neusat SP6000 receiver to downlink RTN on AMC-9. This is an MCPC carrier with an east and west coast stream.

    Somehow, during the course of the day, the lip sync seems to slip a bit either the east or west coast feed. I usually have to go in and change the Video PID, exit and then go back and change the PID back to its correct number in order to solve the problem.

    My question is, why is this happening and why it continuing to happen? I rarely turn off the receiver and the antenna is fixed on AMC 9.

    Thanks for the assist.

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    I see the same thing from time to time with a Coolsat 6100 and a Fortec Mercury II. Usually changing the channels resyncs things. It has been worse than nornal the last few days.

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    I asked this question a while back http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air...ml#post1439214
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    Brian, at SatelliteAV, gave me an explaination of that the other day. It is a function of the uplink quality, mainly, and something about resets, but there were some other things, too. Someone else will probably chime in with the full answer, but I lost the explaination about 30 seconds after that key thought.
    But that was enough for me.
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    If either the transmission or the receiver is not completely DVB compliant, the receiver does not properly sync the Audio (APID) and the Video (VPID) using the Program Clock Reference (PCR) information. This is equivalent to a film projector running with stripped out sprocket holes.

    When a receiver is intially tuned, it correctly syncs the audio and the video signals using the PCR reference (usually the video PID). Consumer set-top boxes usually only sync when the channel is initially tuned, then the AV drifts apart as errors occur in the encoding /decoding. Professional receivers constantly reference the PCR to sync the AV and lip sync errors will not occur if the PCR is correctly referenced in the encoding process.
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    RTV seems to be operating on a shoestring. Their Video tape player on the East channel has not been tracking right for a couple of months.

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    RTV seems to be operating on a shoestring. Their Video tape player on the East channel has not been tracking right for a couple of months.
    "Seems to be" is definitely an understatement. They have potential.

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    Shoestring TV

    Reminds me of an old independent we used to have in VT. WWBI TV27. You used to see whatever channel their VCR was tuned to if the tape ran out and no one was around to change the program. They also had very limited programming at startup. I remember at one point they showed Kung-Fu for 2 days straight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1ADAM12 View Post
    RTV seems to be operating on a shoestring. Their Video tape player on the East channel has not been tracking right for a couple of months.
    Are they really still using VTR's? One computer for each feed with NAS looks great and costs little.

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    Many TV stations are still using tape extensively, although I expect it will slowly fade into history. They have to justify the enormous expense of these professional VTRs, and also, I would think many have a large tape library.
    Current systems: 2X Visionsat IV-200 PVRs; Pansat 2700; Digitrans DTE-7150 DVB/Digicipher II; Twinhan and Nexus-S PC DVB cards; SiliconDust HDHomeRun ATSC/QAM networked tuners; fixed 1 meter Channel Master dish with Eagle Aspen P870 FSS Ku-Band stacked LNB; 2X 3ABN 36" dishes with Invacom QPH-031 Ku/DBS-Band LNBFs on Moteck SG-2100 H-H motors; fixed Sadoun SD180G 1.8 meter dish with Eagle Aspen B1SAT STACK C-Band stacked LNBF; Winegard Square Shooter OTA DTV antenna

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    RTV is going to add some pictures of their operations to their web site. I have previously emailed them asking them about the "coming soon" as that is what their link has and they replied
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    Thank you for your input and suggestions Larry.



    We will add the episode information to our schedules someday, but for now I’m afraid we’re unable to provide more than what we have. I personally will work on getting some pictures added to the site.



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