Thread: Nutty Weather?

Originally Posted by osu1991

They're talking about 6 to 16 feet of snow and temps in the -26 to -30 F area. These are small villages, in impoverished previous war torn areas of Serbia and Croatia and areas along the Black Sea (Romania,Ukraine etc). These areas usually don't see temps below 0F and roads are blocked by snow, so helicopters are the only way to get supplies and medicine in. They are now saying that some of these areas won't be accessible again until spring as temps are expected to remain at 0F for the next 10 days. Large areas are without power and Russia is diverting or limiting a lot of the natural gas supplies from western Europe and sending it into Eastern Europe instead.

OSU,

Yes, that was the country that I heard mentioned in the report... Serbia. I can recall that now.

I hadn't seen a follow-up on that specific news story and I didn't know where to track it down (which news outlet to reflect back on) to get back to the original story I read. Maybe I caught it on Al Jazeera? I don't know now.

6-16 feet of snow and -26 to -30 F temps could certainly wreak havoc on villages that are "impoverished" or backwoods areas far outside the major cities. That type of weather would be far beyond the reach of the imagination for most. Six or eight feet of snow, maybe not so much, but 16 feet or 20 feet of snow like some areas are getting would certainly be unfathomable to most. Then again, so is 70 degrees in January, twice. And no snow on the ground except a light dusting when we have rarely if ever witnessed that in our lifetimes.

I don't really know what to say. You absolutely cannot blame it on global warming, nor can you blame it on the theories backing a mini ice age nor volcanoes. Maybe on the solar cycles, but they aren't really all that unique just right now from historical patterns that have been previously recorded and studied and researched. So what is it, then? I have read some books long ago regarding drought cycles. One research scientist came up with a theory for droughts (or wet years).

He developed a theory that there were multiple cycles in the weather. That every so many weeks or months or years, decades, centuries and eons that these cycles occur naturally on their own. There were dozens if not hundreds or thousands of these individual cycles. All being natural cycles. But, if two or three or more happen to converge at the same period in time, we get droughts here and floods there.

What would happen if this fellow was right? That these cycles existed, truly in nature? And, what if he just wasn't quite as thorough about it as he thought he was? Maybe this happens more often that we realize? As a pattern. Something that happens in nature that you cannot predict as a meteorologist? Do you really believe that anyone could predict the absolute weather for next Wednesday based upon 50 or 150 or 250 years of precise weather recording? I mean, would it truly help to predict the weather tomorrow if you knew the weather patterns from the same day of the year that occurred in 1675? Or how about in 475 BC?

I personally don't believe so. Far too many variables are involved. Mankind has only been recording these variables for a very short time in geologic history. More appropriately, we have only been here for a nanosecond in time!. Actually, it is better to state that the time frame is even much less than that. But, no one really understands the time involved here. The history of the universe and it's age is so incomprehensible to us as mortal humans. We simply do not have the capacity to even imagine the concept of the universe or it's life time compared to our own duration, a single person's life span is simply too short to understand it.

I certainly don't believe in the end of the world scenarios, I think that those who do are a bit nutty. Everyone believes what they desire. I ain't arguing. I believe in the end of the world, too. But, it ain't happening today. Far from it. We don't have to worry until Yellowstone blows her top. After that, no one in the US will care.

Well, I am just rambling about my thoughts. Everyone should live like there is no tomorrow.

Gordy

It's never been this hot.Yes it has.
It's never been this cold.Yes it has.
I've never seen anything like this.So,unless you're Mesusala(have no idea if I spelled that right) your frame of reference is less than insignificant.
If this were the good (really) old days I'd be sitting under a mile or two of ice.
The thing is you're rotating on a planet,orbiting a star,spinning around a galaxy,whizzing through the universe and nobody knows what the universe is in.You've never been here before and you'll never be here again.
And finally there is NO such thing as normal,be it weather,people or anything else.
Okay,rant over ;O

Waylew,

I wouldn't have known how to spell "Methusela" myself. I had to look that up. But, you captured my idea right off the bat. Precisely my sentiments by the way. There is just no way that we can truly attempt to predict the future, by judging from the past, since we sincerely have NO PAST to judge from on this scale. Sure... We can guess at general things and average things, but we don't really know what is going on because we simply haven't been around long enough.

To me, it is akin to the modern people who proclaim or perceive the ancient south American Mayan Indian calender predicts the end of the world. The only way that calender could predict such a thing is if some nut believed it and FORCED it to happen. The Mayan calender only shows to me that they were extremely intelligent about the planets and the stars, maybe even more than we are. Yeah. Without telescopes they, the Mayan Indians KNEW more than anyone did even beyond the 1800's and maybe even now. And their culture was gone before we got a chance to understand them.

In simple terms, we don't have a CLUE what is going on in the world!

RADAR

Waylew,

I wouldn't have known how to spell "Methusela" myself. I had to look that up. But, you captured my idea right off the bat. Precisely my sentiments by the way. There is just no way that we can truly attempt to predict the future, by judging from the past, since we sincerely have NO PAST to judge from on this scale. Sure... We can guess at general things and average things, but we don't really know what is going on because we simply haven't been around long enough.

To me, it is akin to the modern people who proclaim or perceive the ancient south American Mayan Indian calender predicts the end of the world. The only way that calender could predict such a thing is if some nut believed it and FORCED it to happen. The Mayan calender only shows to me that they were extremely intelligent about the planets and the stars, maybe even more than we are. Yeah. Without telescopes they, the Mayan Indians KNEW more than anyone did even beyond the 1800's and maybe even now. And their culture was gone before we got a chance to understand them.

In simple terms, we don't have a CLUE what is going on in the world!

RADAR

I can't wait for: africanized bees, brown recluse spiders, huanta virus mice, termites, scorpions, fire ants, bot flies, nutria. Come on folks, lets melt those friggen ice caps. Hurry up at it too. I bought a bunch of land on the East side of the Appalachians I want to develop as oceanfront luxury condos.
The attitude of keep up the status quo for planetary stewardship is very convenient isn't it? Same issue with reducing the deficit, nobody wants to pay for it. So we shut our eyes and plug our ears and chant "theres nothing wrong ".

The silent generation before the baby boomers knew something about, patriotic duty, conservation and actual conservatism. The current generation is useless. We are doomed until we as citizens taxpayers are allowed to kick any elected official in the crotch when ever we feel like it.


If you don't like the normal weather in Minnesota Move the EFF out!!! We don't want you here. We don't want to hear your complaining. We know it's you cutting in line on the freeway too. Take your Snowphobic attitude to a warm climate and be effing happy "all of the time", not just when it is biblical sign of the Apocalypse unusual weather .


Stop Complaining, Move!

Cold weather kills more than 220 in Europe; Danube freezes over; France set to break power consumption records | News | National Post

-37F from Croatia over to Poland last night and snow in Rome for only the 2nd time in the last 15 years. The Siberian front is now slowly moving into western Europe and the UK. Ferrari had to cancel the debut of their 2012 F1 car due to ice on the track at Maranello.

Originally Posted by freezy

.....If you don't like the normal weather in Minnesota Move the EFF out!!! We don't want you here. We don't want to hear your complaining. We know it's you cutting in line on the freeway too. Take your Snowphobic attitude to a warm climate and be effing happy "all of the time", not just when it is biblical sign of the Apocalypse unusual weather .
Stop Complaining, Move!

If you have no family ties or other reasons that hold you to a place, it would be easy to just pull up and leave anytime. But, some of us are really stuck in place. When I am so tight with my Sister, (only family member left) I would not want to be 1600-1800 miles away from her.

RT.

If you can't change it or don't have the "where-with-all" to change your own environment why bother complaining? This lack of winter-like weather has been devastating to the outdoor recreation industry. Jobs and homes lost, business failing, bankruptcy, loan defaults. It's terrible. I guess if you like the heat, go stand next to somebodies house that is burning down and say, "Oooo doesn't the warmth feel nice? Let's make some s'mores...nummy!" See what type of reaction you get.

Originally Posted by RT-Cat

If you have no family ties or other reasons that hold you to a place, it would be easy to just pull up and leave anytime. But, some of us are really stuck in place. When I am so tight with my Sister, (only family member left) I would not want to be 1600-1800 miles away from her.

RT.

Yeah, my Mom just passed away a few months ago and my Dad needs my help now. I can't move. I wish I could but I can't.
And Dad has already lived longer than his Mom and Dad did and longer than his siblings (he's one of six).. So I'm worried about losing Dad at any moment even though he's pretty healthy. Longevity isn't a family trait.