Thread: Welp... Here I am.

After 10 years, I dropped Dish Network because costs were getting out of hand.
Doing OTA / Netflix / Hulu

Then I thought... Haven't been on SatelliteGuys for a while...
Hey... FTA Satellite!

Might be a trip down the road to Sadoun soon to get started ( After the weather warms a little )

So, I'm moving from the Dish forums ( Which I've been inactive for quite a while ) and coming over here.

Looking forward to talking to some of the older guys from other parts of the forum, and some new ones ( at least to me )

So... the million dollar question...
What systems are good to get for HD ( And possibly DVR if they are out there ) ?

Thanks!

For a new receiver, you'd want DVB-S2/MPEG-4/HD capability. There's a new DVR-capable receiver due out by the end of February by SatelliteAV that seems to be a real winner.

Welcome to the FTA section!

Avediswolf,

Currently, the AZBox Premium Plus is my prime IRD. But, they have issues with editing. This can be overcome and it becomes a very nice box if you are willing to pull your hair out for a while. This is from OpenSat.

OpenBox has an S9 and S10 IRD that a lot of people are testing recently. I will let them inform you of those.

Do you plan on checking Ku Band? C-Band? Both? I'd recommend using a BUD and trying for both. There is still a lot of channels available on C-Band that are in-the-clear.

Welcome to the FTA area. Be prepared, it can become very addictive. It is a hobby.

RADAR

I think I'd wait for the new receiver due out in February. I've had the Sathawk/Openbox S10 for well over a year and I like it. I'm going to get one of the new boxes that Sat Av has coming out though. I'd go with an 8 foot or larger for Cband...some of the HD stuff can be a little tricky to get. 36" or larger for KU.
Blind

As far as receivers go, I've got two complete systems with two AZBoxes and also two Openbox S9s. I have an AZ Elite and also an Ultra and the reason for the Ultra was for it's blind scan feature only. Both systems have one of each connected with a diode protected splitter but only boot one at a time to keep my Vbox X dish controller from going bonkers trying to be two places at once!

Those AZs will do 4.2.2 video where the S9s won't but after having an S9 since early last summer, the lack of 4.2.2 hasn't been a problem to date. The AZ has a bunch more features but I find that most of those aren't used on either of my systems, ie, YouTube vid play from the internet for one?? I'll bet I haven't played more than a dozen since I got that Elite 2 years ago. Some do use that stuff regularly though. Down side is that even the "cheap" AZBoxes are now up @ $300 even on fleabay, which I believe is way over priced for a box with what is basically junk firmware that they won't fix.

So, that brings me to the S9 receiver. I use those probably 90% of the time on both systems now and what that means is that if I had bought an S9 before the AZs, I probably wouldn't own any AZBox receivers now since I don't use a good part of the bells and whistles on them. Another advantage of the Openbox S* receivers is price. The two I have were bought used and both work flawlessly and I've got less than $200 in the two shipped to my door. The cheapest AZ I have was $270 shipped. Aother advantage of the Openbox receivers is that there's a couple of companies writing firmware for them so you have another source for firmware, ie, Solomed, Sky Box and Openbox all appear to use the same hardware. There was some new firmware put out back in August that has worked out well for me on both my boxes and made them much easier to use.

And a major note, ALL THESE BOXES ARE A WORK IN PROGRESS!! So don't buy any of them expecting them to be perfect. Many of them were designed for the South American and Europe markets so we're sucking hind teat as far as North American features go. But, with Brazil's crackdown on TV piracy we "may" get a little more attention in the future.

Bottom line is that if I only could have one box now, it would be an Openbox and probably an S9 if I could find it.

Originally Posted by Lone Gunman

And a major note, ALL THESE BOXES ARE A WORK IN PROGRESS!! So don't buy any of them expecting them to be perfect. Many of them were designed for the South American and Europe markets so we're sucking hind teat as far as North American features go. But, with Brazil's crackdown on TV piracy we "may" get a little more attention in the future.

My projection and with historical observation is that the crackdown on theft of services in South America will not provide more attention on the North American market or support for the S9/S10/S11/S12/S13/S14/S15/S16/S17/etc..... STBs.

Did you know that in most Eastern European countries, which are smaller than an average US state, provides more STB sales than the entire North and Central American market for any of the major STB manufacturers? These manufacturers are only driven by major market sales and not supporting small markets like North America. Most likely the manufacturers attention will be turning back to Europe where key sharing is at epidemic levels and there is a great new terrestrial and combined Sat/Terrestrial STB sales potential with the emerging DVB T2 market.

On that note, read as much as possible on these forums and find out what receiver is working best at the time that you are ready to buy. Many promises are madebut never implemented. Make sure that the reeceiver that you are considering are working for the types of channels that you want to receive.