DirecTV and FiOS National HD Comparison

**Hemi 6.1** · 04-07-2008 12:35 PM

I know alot of people with HD TV's that don't have D* or E*. They are just happy to play a Blu Ray movie or Xbox,or PS3. ,I agree that HD is the future, But its hard to sell everyone a service that costs more money,when they already have the same service,just not HD. I'll never quit watchen SD,Unless EVERYTHING is in HD. Then I won't have a choice! Just because D* has the most HD doesn't mean thats what everyone wants. If so, every customer D* has would subscribe to HD. And they don't! Just like every E* customer doesn't!

**ScoBuck** · 04-07-2008 01:56 PM

Factually, the majority of new DirecTV subs are advanced products subs, and HD and HD-DVR makes up most of that.

This is most likely true of DISH as well, I just don''t recall that they broke it down in their last conference call.

They are ALL seeking the HD subs right now more than anything.

**jacmyoung** · 04-07-2008 02:09 PM

Whatever you think Hemi, the fact is HD is all the rage going to sell these days, whether you like it or not. Those only care for SD will not move anywhere, so if a service provider wants to expand it sub base, HD is the lure because when those SD subs decide to buy an HDTV set they will look for who has the most HD channels that can make their new HDTV's worth the money.

One fallacy among some people is they point to the 70% majority who do not swtich providers as an indication HD does not matter, but forgot that the TV providers are not going after that 70%, they are going after that 30% who will switch.

**Hemi 6.1** · 04-07-2008 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by ScoBuck

They are ALL seeking the HD subs right now more than anything.

Who D*? Well they should they spent billions on it! D* main goal is HD and sports! We know that! Fios and Cables main goal is to provide multiples of services, without the limited programming that Satellite has. My local cable company might not have 100 HD channels ,but it does have 20 locals,14 more the D*s, DVR thats less money, Equipment that doesn't cost anything to have fixed ,No commitments that last 18 -24 months. High speed internet! 40 Premiums channels offered, All of them for $34.95 Directv 31 of them and its over $40 extra per month. Directv has NFL pack ,Most HD,and Nascar Hotpass,and one of the Highest bills I've see in a long time!. Cable and Fios don't!

**ScoBuck** · 04-07-2008 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Hemi 6.1

Who D*? Well they should they spent billions on it! D* main goal is HD and sports! We know that! Fios and Cables main goal is to provide multiples of services, without the limited programming that Satellite has. My local cable company might not have 100 HD channels ,but it does have 20 locals,14 more the D*s, DVR thats less money, Equipment that doesn't cost anything to have fixed ,No commitments that last 18 -24 months. High speed internet! 40 Premiums channels offered, All of them for $34.95 Directv 31 of them and its over $40 extra per month. Directv has NFL pack ,Most HD,and Nascar Hotpass. Cable and Fios don't!

Well DirecTV spent maybe $1 billion, not billionS. And DISH is also launching sats this year don't forget, and BOUGHT sats (like Rainbow 1 for 200 million for the exact same thing). FiOS is currently spending hundreds of millions upgrading its hubs to increase its HD bandwidth, and cable has been laying fiber in most of the country for the exact same reason.

You are missing my point however, as I have said ALL of the ads for ALL of the providers that I see (CABLEVISION, FiOS, DISH and DirecTV) talk about having the best HD. That is the customer they are trying to attract - true for all of them. If you look, this thread was started as a HD comparison, not a free equipment comparison, or cost of repair comparison.

BTW, have you noticed the difference in cost on a monthly basis for FiOS for HD receivers or HD-DVRS? It is a lot. One way to make up for NO upfront fees is to charge more monthly isn't it? If you keep FiOS for 2 years you pay much more for equipment than with DirecTV. HD receiver is $9.99/month, HD-DVR is $15.99/month with FiOS.

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**Hemi 6.1** · 04-07-2008 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by ScoBuck

Well DirecTV spent maybe $1 billion, not billionS. And DISH is also launching sats this year don't forget, and BOUGHT sats (like Rainbow 1 for 200 million for the exact same thing). FiOS is currently spending hundreds of millions upgrading its hubs to increase its HD bandwidth, and cable has been laying fiber in most of the country for the exact same reason.

You are missing my point however, as I have said ALL of the ads for ALL of the providers that I see (CABLEVISION, FiOS, DISH and DirecTV) talk about having the best HD. That is the customer they are trying to attract - true for all of them. If you look, this thread was started as a HD comparison, not a free equipment comparison, or cost of repair comparison.

BTW, have you noticed the difference in cost on a monthly basis for FiOS for HD receivers or HD-DVRS? It is a lot. One way to make up for NO upfront fees is to charge more monthly isn't it? If you keep FiOS for 2 years you pay much more for equipment than with DirecTV.

I can't really compair equipment wise with Fios as I heard it only records like half of what the DVR's from E* and D*. But cable In my area is very close if not more atvanced VOD is been with cable for years. HD I am agreeing is the future, But if it is ,and thats the only way it will be years to come ,then it should not be priced seprately, or cost more!

**jacmyoung** · 04-07-2008 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Hemi 6.1

I can't really compair equipment wise with Fios as I heard it only records like half of what the DVR's from E* and D*. But cable In my area is very close if not more atvanced VOD is been with cable for years. HD I am agreeing is the future, But if it is ,and thats the only way it will be years to come ,then it should not be priced seprately, or cost more!

Why do you still have DirecTV then?

**Hemi 6.1** · 04-07-2008 04:20 PM

18-24 months thats why.

**charper1** · 04-07-2008 04:30 PM

Hemi? You are saying the ONLY reason you are with DirecTV is because you are stuck in a contract?

**Hemi 6.1** · 04-07-2008 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by charper1

Hemi? You are saying the ONLY reason you are with DirecTV is because you are stuck in a contract?

Dishnetwork Yes! Directv , I've always had , so its hard to just drop them. I like HD which is 90% of why I'm staying. The other 10% is because I don't want to spend hundreds to get out of the contract. I do like D* but I also like Premiums and High speed internet! And Cable has Offered me really good deal! What I need from D* is More Premiums for my money,and neighboring locals. That would solve a lot. I'd be willing to trade 50 HD channels to get it.