Anyone have problems with some G19 channels?

[shibby191]

Simply, WHY, is this system so problematic to work with !!!! ? Sure getting tried of running up and down the road messing with it ! .

I don't think they are all that problematic just because I personally have a problem. It's no different then when I've had technical problems with my DirecTV setup like when I went thru three LNBs to finally get one that could handle temps below 30 degrees. Basically any of this sat stuff can have issues, it's not cable which of course never has problems.

[rv1pop]

I don't think they are all that problematic just because I personally have a problem. It's no different then when I've had technical problems with my DirecTV setup like when I went thru three LNBs to finally get one that could handle temps below 30 degrees. Basically any of this sat stuff can have issues, it's not cable which of course never has problems.

Some of us live in areas where there are problems with wind and weather. We are looking for help in solving those challenges. You seldom hear about the many systems that work the first time, everytime.

But then there are those who seem to have constant complaints. for them, nothing seems to work. ith those, I remember what my dad used to say, "He would complain if they hung him with a new rope." After hearing that a few times, I asked dad how someone who was hung, would be alive to complain. "He would not get hurt, but would be so much of a complainer, he would not be grateful to be alive."

Just for a comment on the thread subject, my primestar dishes have not had a channel loss problem even using the same LNBFs. But the metal dishes do seem to have a problem with tempurature extremes and winds over 45 mph.

And just for comparison, a neighbor has been told they can not have telephone service, after the wind and ice took down their 7th phone line! CABLE TV??? The badgers ate over 2 miles of underground cable, so the cable company says they will not replace it! (was still 1 1/2 mile from our place and I would not pay the price anyway!)

For us, the challenges do not deter us for making the effort to keep Satellite TV working!
POP

[Glorystar1]

Are you noticing a trend with solving the posted problems? Usually the problems are solved with the same trouble shooting techniques that experienced technicians have used for years with every other satellite system provider.

These threads have a reoccurring theme. I have problem X, Y or Z. What do I do? Usually a problem is resolved by following the suggested testing method. Often the person chooses to develop their own methods to determine the problem and reports that the system continues to exhibit the same problem. Why? Because the issue has not been isolated with signal flow logic or general trouble shooting techniques. A defective coax or switch will not be discovered by reaiming the dish and a dish aiming issue will not be corrected by replacing a switch or coax. Flat tires on a car usually aren't the cause of an engine not starting.....

I would suggest that this issue has not been resolved because the the prime suspect causes for the failure have not been tested.

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Simply, WHY, is this system so problematic to work with !!!! ? Sure getting tried of running up and down the road messing with it ! .

[shibby191]

I would suggest that this issue has not been resolved because the the prime suspect causes for the failure have not been tested.

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Exactly. I just can't physically do the tests at this time. It is going to be 60 today (whoohooo!) but heavy rain and then back to cold and snow in a couple days. Not a big deal to me, I'll get it troubleshooted down in a month or so once the weather breaks.

Took me 2 weeks to troubleshoot my DirecTV problem last winter in sub freezing weather to figure out it was my LNB. But it was more pressing to me because I'm not missing my Sunday Ticket! I remember bypassing switches, troubleshooting each cable one at a time, replacing the whole dish with an old one I still had laying around and so forth. Fun fun!
With my current problem with Glorystar my wife gets all the channels she wants so there is no urgency other then it bugs me it's not 100%. But I'll get it figured out.

[midihead]

I am using a Mercury II receiver with the dual LNB setup. I am also using all of the original settings that initially came set on my receiver after activating it. The receiver has never been updated since activation.

Ever since G19 became active, my signal quality has dropped by half of what it used to be. I am in western Maryland near the PA line. The highest I used to get on G25 was the mid-40's to low 50's. Now the majority of G19 channels are hovering around the mid-20's which of course isn't good enough. 3ABN on AMC4 has remained great with Signal Level around 97 and Signal Quality around 90 consistently using either of the 2 LNB's when testing. The signal drop occured right after G19 became active.

For the G19 satellite, I have swapped LNB's, changed the switch, installed all new coax (non-crimped ends, of course) and adjusted the LNB's forward and backward with no improvement. The only thing I haven't tried is adjusting the skew on the LNB holder and repointing the dish itself.

If G19 is in exactly the same place as G25 was, I shouldn't have to do any adjustments to my system should I? My dish is locked down solid and has not moved. If it was a warped dish issue, wouldn't that have affected AMC4's reception somewhat?

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you.

[shibby191]

Hey, my thread got bumped. Just FYI that we had some great weather last weekend and I completely tore everything down, re-plumbed the mast (it was off just a tad) and repointed everything. AMC4 was rock solid and I got all the vertical on G19 back solid but the horizontal were still out. Tried a direct cable run with new cable and same thing so I think it's a bad LNB or switch. I ordered up a couple new LNBs and a switch and should be here next week so we'll see if that fixes it. I like to have extra parts around anyway.

[shibby191]

Problem is solved!

And the problem was: Bad LNB

Got my parts today and went right to work. First I replaced the switch because the old one was faded and starting to corrode on the back. Nope, same problem.

So I replaced the LNB for G19 and viola, everything works great. All the Horizontals came back, however weak. So a bit of tweaking and I've got AMC4 at 85+ for the adventist channels, 65+ for the rest.
And G19 I've got 50-70 for most. Even got a solid 53 on Al Jazzera.

I had thought bad LNB at first but didn't want to assume it. I shoulda just ordered up a new LNB months ago. I coulda replaced that even in the snow. Oh well, I've got a spare LNB now just in case (I like to have spare parts like that anyway).