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    Glorystar dual satellite dish unable to get both birds

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    I am unable to get both the Glorystar satellites at the same time does anyone know something i don't?

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    Please describe your system (receiver brand and model and the model of the switch).

    Basic trouble shooting:

    1. Is the mounting post PERFECTLY plumb and level with the tripod legs installed?
    2. Is the dish warped or bent? Did you lay the dish on a flat surface or perform the string test?
    3. Are you using the new cable shipped with the system or trying to reuse existing coax cable?
    4. Has the receiver been activated following the procedure in the installation guide?
    5. Has the dual LNBF bracket been rotated to the correct Skew (rotation)? In Florida, the clamp will be rotated to the left (counter-clockwise) making the left LNBF lower than the LNBF on the right side.
    6. Are both LNBFs set so the face of the LNBFs are slid toward the reflector approx. 3/4"? Are the center marking lines on the top of the LNBFs aligned with arrows on the top of the dual LNBF clamp?
    7. Do you receive 3ABN channel when connected directly to the LNBF on the right side (not connecting through the switch)?
    8. Do you receive TBN channel when connected directly to the LNBF on the left side (not connecting through the switch)?
    9. Did you turn off or disconnect the receiver's power when inserting the switch?
    10. Is the switch inserted correctly?

    Please call our technical support team for assistance if you continue to have issues with the system!
    Last edited by Glorystar1; 09-20-2009 at 12:40 AM. Reason: WESCOPC tyed faster than I did! LOL!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorystar1 View Post
    Please describe your system (receiver brand and model and the model of the switch).

    Basic trouble shooting:

    1. Is the mounting post PERFECTLY plumb and level with the tripod legs installed?
    2. Is the dish warped or bent? Did you lay the dish on a flat surface or perform the string test?
    3. Are you using the new cable shipped with the system or trying to reuse existing coax cable?
    4. Has the receiver been activated following the procedure in the installation guide?
    5. Has the dual LNBF bracket been rotated to the correct Skew (rotation)? In Florida, the clamp will be rotated to the left (counter-clockwise) making the left LNBF lower than the LNBF on the right side.
    6. Are both LNBFs set so the face of the LNBFs are slid toward the reflector approx. 3/4"? Are the center marking lines on the top of the LNBFs aligned with arrows on the top of the dual LNBF clamp?
    7. Do you receive 3ABN channel when connected directly to the LNBF on the right side (not connecting through the switch)?
    8. Do you receive TBN channel when connected directly to the LNBF on the left side (not connecting through the switch)?
    9. Did you turn off or disconnect the receiver's power when inserting the switch?
    10. Is the switch inserted correctly?

    Please call our technical support team for assistance if you continue to have issues with the system!
    Unfortunately I'm a satellite system installer and I know of two very experienced technicians who were unable to get both birds. It seems to me you would be better off to just get two of the single LNB systems and point to each bird and use the switch that would guarantee maximum signal reception.
    Don't you think that would be more affective?

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    Very odd that they cant get both satellites. 101W is very strong and should come in no issues. I know of a few folks (not installers) who have both sats just fine in Florida

    Sounds like Glorystar is giving you some options to test out
    Winegard 76cm dish, SG2100 motor, Sadoun dual KU LNB..... Directv Slimline SWM 3 LNB.... GeoSatPro 36" dish with Sadoun dual KU LNB... Coolsat 5000 on motorized.... Manhattan RS1933....Directv HR34 (yes the 5 tuner monster) GeoSatPro 200 to aim dishes.... few receivers not set up yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by apsc View Post
    Unfortunately I'm a satellite system installer and I know of two very experienced technicians who were unable to get both birds. It seems to me you would be better off to just get two of the single LNB systems and point to each bird and use the switch that would guarantee maximum signal reception.
    Don't you think that would be more affective?
    No, the single dish solution provides very good results in the majority of install situations. You may find that installers might be more comfortable installing two separate dishes, but there is no need as both satellites provide excellent signals for the continental US, Hawaii, Southern Canada and all but the most southern border of Mexico. The satellites are only spaced 4 degrees apart and the dish, bracket and LNBFs have been designed and optimized specifically for this solution.

    We exhibited at the NRB in Orlando three years ago and I installed a temporary dish system mounted on a PA tripod stand. All channels were above the recommended BER. Don't just take our word, check out the installer (Liquidforce88) in this recent thread who stated that the system was easier to install than the Dish 1000.4
    http://www.satelliteguys.us/glorysta...ml#post1948921

    With the exception of LOS issues or malfunctioning equipment, experienced installer or or first time installer.... we have found in providing technical support for the dual LNBF system over the past four years that there are 5 keys to successful installation:

    1. Read and follow the installation instructions

    2. See #1

    3. See #2

    4. See #3

    5. See #4

    Installers typically have developed a set way or routine for installing and most "have seen it all". The majority of installers will not review install guides prior to an install, but learn by trying things their own way. One contractor company lead tech became so frustrated with his crew that he requested a system for himself. He followed the instructions and was successful. Now, when he calls to close out installation orders, he has shared that when he has followed-up on problem calls from his crew, almost all problems are because the techs had been installing using their own method.

    On several occasions he rolled to assist an installer and read the instructions as they worked. The installers would comment that they wished that the instructions would have provided them the information as the training that he had just provided..... LOL!!!!

    You will be successful! I guarantee it! Once you have successfully installed the Glorystar system you will most likely recall this post and wonder why the install was ever considered a problem.
    Last edited by Glorystar1; 09-20-2009 at 03:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glorystar1 View Post
    No, the single dish solution provides very good results in the majority of install situations. You may find that installers might be more comfortable installing two separate dishes, but there is no need as both satellites provide excellent signals for the continental US, Hawaii, Southern Canada and all but the most southern border of Mexico. The satellites are only spaced 4 degrees apart and the dish, bracket and LNBFs have been designed and optimized specifically for this solution.

    We exhibited at the NRB in Orlando three years ago and I installed a temporary dish system mounted on a PA tripod stand. All channels were above the recommended BER. Don't just take our word, check out the installer (Liquidforce88) in this recent thread who stated that the system was easier to install than the Dish 1000.4
    http://www.satelliteguys.us/glorysta...ml#post1948921

    With the exception of LOS issues or malfunctioning equipment, experienced installer or or first time installer.... we have found in providing technical support for the dual LNBF system over the past four years that there are 5 keys to successful installation:

    1. Read and follow the installation instructions

    2. See #1

    3. See #2

    4. See #3

    5. See #4

    Installers typically have developed a set way or routine for installing and most "have seen it all". The majority of installers will not review install guides prior to an install, but learn by trying things their own way. One contractor company lead tech became so frustrated with his crew that he requested a system for himself. He followed the instructions and was successful. Now, when he calls to close out installation orders, he has shared that when he has followed-up on problem calls from his crew, almost all problems are because the techs had been installing using their own method.

    On several occasions he rolled to assist an installer and read the instructions as they worked. The installers would comment that they wished that the instructions would have provided them the information as the training that he had just provided..... LOL!!!!

    You will be successful! I guarantee it! Once you have successfully installed the Glorystar system you will most likely recall this post and wonder why the install was ever considered a problem.

    Well we will give that a shot the other two technicians i mentioned are business owners who one with over twenty years experience tried for three days to get one to work the other tried for two days and neither had any success but they probably did'nt read instructions and both have birddog satellite meters...LOL

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    We have a very hard time getting both satellites with one dish here in the tip of south Texas. I am very active in promoting these systems but do not know of anyone here that has gotten both satellites with one 36" dish. We can do it with a 39" dish. For those wanting both satellites here, we have been selling them motors and have good luck with those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaneLinder View Post
    We have a very hard time getting both satellites with one dish here in the tip of south Texas. I am very active in promoting these systems but do not know of anyone here that has gotten both satellites with one 36" dish. We can do it with a 39" dish. For those wanting both satellites here, we have been selling them motors and have good luck with those.
    The 36" dish with dual LNBFs work very good in South Texas and are used further South into Central Mexico. I have personally installed several 36" dual LNBF Glorystar systems much father south from your location in the Yucatan region of Mexico. The system worked great with a 50% Signal Quality on the weakest Glorystar channel.

    Please refer anyone with these problems to our customer service staff or you can PM the names and telephone numbers and we can contact them. We have not heard about the inability to receive both satellites carrying the Glorystar programming in South Texas with a dual LNBF 36" dish. We sell many systems in Texas and would expect to have received many reports if this was a problem.

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    I live near San Antonio Texas, just north of Shane and I have the dual LNB dish from Glorystar and get excellent reception from both Satellites. I'm not a professional installer but it took about an hour to get it lined up.

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