Thread: Seems I've been banned from the Blu-Ray forum here at SatelliteGuys

All I did was post the truth and I seem to have been banned without even an email reason why. Go figure.

This is the post

Originally Posted by elwaylite

Your using the wrong data for your ratio.

"Right data wrong data doesn’t matter, we all know their track record(horrible) when it comes to reporting accurate numbers. We can go all the way back to the week Transformers was released and BD had nothing but a BOGO that week and still won hmmm? How about the week Open Season (throw in)was #2 ranked in all BD sales hmmm? Counting all the $0.00 purchases hmmm?"

Amazon considering that the previous post called that thread 'Pathetic'. But I get banned. I simply stated the truth about the reliability of his source for numbers. Then gave examples to prove. It wasn't a personal attack.

Your posts were deleted by myself and Iceberg, you can read the comments why on the bottom of those... It was suggested you post in the WZ in some of them... The BD and HD DVD forums are not to flame nor dispute the posts in same, that is why the WZ was created... your permission was removed as you should realize not to keep reposting...

What was so flaming about stating the reliability of his source for numbers?????? Was he banned for this recent post:

Originally Posted by elwaylite
I dont read the threads, just the news you idiot. Your posts continue to show how stupid you are.
http://www.satelliteguys.us/blu-ray-forum/136951-onkyo-bd-606-october.html

Obviously diogen and I disagreed with his source of numbers and at least I stated my disagreement without stooping to name calling. Please define dispute? Are you saying untruths should live in the forums? No corrections?

As far as reposting I have in the past had problems posting that resulted in double postings or the page freezing and the post not going through so I thought that was what happened. I never saw any reason for deletion.

Nonrev,

A little friendly advice. You may take it for what you will. I mentioned in the Dear Friends thread that you are not the only one who "stoops to name calling", but you have, also. It's not so much what you say, but how you say it.

Originally Posted by nonrev

WOW that edit took 7 hours. I take it that you assume BD is better technology because of space. More space is not better technology my son. I think you need to look up the definition of technology. Cute of you to drop the HD DVD is dead talking point again, when I mentioned it I said ‘was’. Oh and I noticed each one of your rebuttals has conveniently not addressed why your great BD technology just doesn’t pan out to a better HD experience.

I have said the same thing to one of your "adversaries" on the other side. This type of posting drives people away that are here to seek useful information.

I saw the thread and it clearly stated that your posts were deleted because that forum is not the warzone. Iceberg mentioned that you post your response to the OP in the warzone. The mods here are pretty lenient. It seems to me that you were willfully disregarding their warnings. Feel free to back up your opinions with links, proof, etc. that support your opinions rather than stating opinion as fact. Treat other members with respect no matter what they say to you and I am sure they will restore your user rights.

S~

That post you quoted was in the warzone where gloves sometimes come off, not in the BD forum. I've tried to watch what I say in the BD forum. If its not about what you say but how you say it then why are the nasty attacks allowed in the BD forum against anyone who points out a concern? Those attacks seem to be where the most hateful language is used. Once again I never saw anything from Iceberg. Your very right the mods are very lenient considering I was call an idiot and stupid.

Please tell me how I could've rephrased the post that got me banned: "Right data wrong data doesn’t matter, we all know their track record(horrible) when it comes to reporting accurate numbers. We can go all the way back to the week Transformers was released and BD had nothing but a BOGO that week and still won hmmm? How about the week Open Season (throw in)was #2 ranked in all BD sales hmmm? Counting all the $0.00 purchases hmmm?"

While your at it tell me what about it is untrue, I have never lied about BD.

Originally Posted by nonrev

That post you quoted was in the warzone where gloves sometimes come off, not in the BD forum. I've tried to watch what I say in the BD forum. If its not about what you say but how you say it then why are the nasty attacks allowed in the BD forum against anyone who points out a concern? Those attacks seem to be where the most hateful language is used. Once again I never saw anything from Iceberg.

Please tell me how I could've rephrased the post that got me banned: "Right data wrong data doesn’t matter, we all know their track record(horrible) when it comes to reporting accurate numbers. We can go all the way back to the week Transformers was released and BD had nothing but a BOGO that week and still won hmmm? How about the week Open Season (throw in)was #2 ranked in all BD sales hmmm? Counting all the $0.00 purchases hmmm?"

While your at it tell me what about it is untrue, I have never lied about BD.

I've been here the whole time. I have always been format neutral, but during the war, I leaned towards HD-DVD. I still own more HD-DVDs than BDs, although I am catching up quickly. Gloves do come off in the warzone, but attacks against posters aren't allowed here either, though the mods have been much more lenient about it. Posts have been deleted in the WZ for attacking posters, also. The mods didn't tolerate it when the blu-boys came "trolling" into the HD-DVD forum either.

Back up your posts with a link to support your opinion and say it in a different way. Get rid of the hmmmmmssss. What I recal from the "Transformer" days is Paramount overstating their sales. And yes, BD had a BOG that week to counteract the affect. HD-DVD should have done something, also, but they never did. They were their own demise. The independent research companies like NPD, etc. don't make up numbers. They report what the retailers give them. The way retailers do BOGO's is they charge for both and discount the second. It works that way for everything, not just BD's. Sold is sold whether it cost 24.99 for two with a BOGO or 49.98 at regular price. I do agree with you, and have always stated, that I want to see unit sales and not dollars. But, that is the way retail works. NPD and others report numbers at the end of quarters and yearly, the rest of the time (weekly) we see revenue. In general they do not release numbers to the public.

No you don't lie about BD, but many of your opionions suit you. Which is fine. However, they don't fit everyone. Sometimes you come across like your opinion is the only one that matters and everyone else is wrong. Be more accepting of others opinions and viewpoints.

S~

Originally Posted by nonrev

All I did was post the truth and I seem to have been banned without even an email reason why. Go figure.

This is the post

"Right data wrong data doesn’t matter, we all know their track record(horrible) when it comes to reporting accurate numbers. We can go all the way back to the week Transformers was released and BD had nothing but a BOGO that week and still won hmmm? How about the week Open Season (throw in)was #2 ranked in all BD sales hmmm? Counting all the $0.00 purchases hmmm?"

Amazon considering that the previous post called that thread 'Pathetic'. But I get banned. I simply stated the truth about the reliability of his source for numbers. Then gave examples to prove. It wasn't a personal attack.

Seems like a new policy that only applies to the BD forum. A sad precedent for Satelliteguys. No questioning of anything bluray else you are banned. Now where have I seen that policy before?????
www.blu-ray.com

Originally Posted by teachsac

I've been here the whole time. I have always been format neutral, but during the war, I leaned towards HD-DVD. I still own more HD-DVDs than BDs, although I am catching up quickly. Gloves do come off in the warzone, but attacks against posters aren't allowed here either, though the mods have been much more lenient about it. Posts have been deleted in the WZ for attacking posters, also. The mods didn't tolerate it when the blu-boys came "trolling" into the HD-DVD forum either.

Back up your posts with a link to support your opinion and say it in a different way. Get rid of the hmmmmmssss. What I recal from the "Transformer" days is Paramount overstating their sales. And yes, BD had a BOG that week to counteract the affect. HD-DVD should have done something, also, but they never did. They were their own demise. The independent research companies like NPD, etc. don't make up numbers. They report what the retailers give them. The way retailers do BOGO's is they charge for both and discount the second. It works that way for everything, not just BD's. Sold is sold whether it cost 24.99 for two with a BOGO or 49.98 at regular price. I do agree with you, and have always stated, that I want to see unit sales and not dollars. But, that is the way retail works. NPD and others report numbers at the end of quarters and yearly, the rest of the time (weekly) we see revenue. In general they do not release numbers to the public.

No you don't lie about BD, but many of your opionions suit you. Which is fine. However, they don't fit everyone. Sometimes you come across like your opinion is the only one that matters and everyone else is wrong. Be more accepting of others opinions and viewpoints.

S~

I’m a little lost here, if you could tie it down for me. Are you saying that you accept that source of numbers, don’t accept it, or accept it because that’s the only source right or wrong? If it’s either of the latter two then that’s all diogen and I were expressing.

Originally Posted by dfergie

Your posts were deleted by myself and Iceberg, you can read the comments why on the bottom of those... It was suggested you post in the WZ in some of them... The BD and HD DVD forums are not to flame nor dispute the posts in same, that is why the WZ was created... your permission was removed as you should realize not to keep reposting...

How can I read a comment on a post that was deleted. I never saw anything, nore did I see any post from any mod or PM or email.

Originally Posted by vurbano

Seems like a new policy that only applies to the BD forum. A sad precedent for Satelliteguys. No questioning of anything bluray else you are banned. Now where have I seen that policy before?????
www.blu-ray.com

Maybe you should be careful I don't want to take anybody down with me.