Thread: Sling to 922 to Hopper family tree?

I had an epiphany yesterday. When Dish bought Sling several years ago, the objective at the time appeared to add Sling technology to the Dish family, which led to the Sling Adapter and 922, and what would have been the Sling Extender. Did Dish abandon the Sling technology in favor of Hopper/Joey? Or is it the evolution of it? I'm not talking the ethernet or MOCA layer, but the underlying technology and implementation?

What if Dish had bought Tivo 5+ years ago? Would D* and everybody else be on the other end of a lawsuit for borrowing technology?

I'd like to think Dish bought Sling for the technology to create the Sling Adapter / 922 and Extender, and think the concept of "Whole Home DVR" made the existing hardware obsolete, and Hopper / Joey Dish's answer to the competition.

Miner

Dish is still using Sling. They will sling adapters with the Hopper system. Sling still seems to be important to Dish in order to provide service to customers everywhere they go.

I know I can still use the Sling Adapter on the Hopper. My question was a bit more technical than I probably explained. Does the Hopper to Joey stream use the same technology as a Sling Adapter (or 922) to Sling Extender, but with new hardware?

Another question I have is does Dish get any subsidy from the Big-4 for the Primetime Anytime feature?

Just random thoughts.

Miner

I believe the Hopper/Joey system is a different animal all togther than Sling technology. The Hopper is using Moca technology which uses coaxial.

No, totally different technology. They were to release the Sling Extender for TV 2 HD, which used sling technology, but it has been abandoned.

Originally Posted by Miner

I know I can still use the Sling Adapter on the Hopper. My question was a bit more technical than I probably explained. Does the Hopper to Joey stream use the same technology as a Sling Adapter (or 922) to Sling Extender, but with new hardware?

To the best of anyone's knowledge - no. The hopper is just relaying the existing sat data stream to the joeys.

Sling for inside the home was was always a dumb idea in my opinion. To get a comparable picture it takes more bandwidth to use sling than to just relay the original sat data stream.

Originally Posted by JM42

To the best of anyone's knowledge - no. The hopper is just relaying the existing sat data stream to the joeys.

Sling for inside the home was was always a dumb idea in my opinion. To get a comparable picture it takes more bandwidth to use sling than to just relay the original sat data stream.

I thought the Joey is tunerless, only processing some degree of signal from the Hopper's 3 tuners.

And to me MOCA and Cat 5 ethernet are merely a transport media.

Miner

Hopper goes back to using the add-on Sling adapter for TV Everywhere. I guess they decided that was more cost effective than adding Sling on the board as is done in the 922. Future Hopper models might be SlingLoaded since the next generation BCM7425 STB processor (Hopper 2000 has the BCM7420) has Sling integrated on the main chip.

Originally Posted by Miner

I thought the Joey is tunerless, only processing some degree of signal from the Hopper's 3 tuners.
And to me MOCA and Cat 5 ethernet are merely a transport media.
Miner

They are tunerless. I didn't mean the Hopper relays the entire sat signal, just the data stream for the channel your watching after being received by the tuner and demuxed in the hopper.

Sling has to take that same data stream, decompress it, and then re-compress it using a lossy algorithm, a lot of unecessary work. You end up with a copy of a copy that takes more bandwidth than the original sat data stream.