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    ronniejay is offline SatelliteGuys Regular
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    The engineer at WFYI in Indianapolis also performed the same test with me, by unhooking the Goldstar multiplexor and then rehooking it up. My tuner also worked when the multiplexor was unhooked. The engineer said he would try to contact the manufacturer and then get back with me.

    the PBS channel enginner replied after checking with the Multiplexor manufacturer and they don't have a fix.

    This is the quote sent from the manufacturers, "Our findings were that the Voom Motorola DSR550 either hangs or reboots when it comes across a data casting signal. This occurs with our deployment merging data from a Triveni inserter through an LI mux or any datacast found through other stations. Unfortunately the only solution is to have the Voom user remove or lock out the station from their presets."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronniejay
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    The engineer at WFYI in Indianapolis also performed the same test with me, by unhooking the Goldstar multiplexor and then rehooking it up. My tuner also worked when the multiplexor was unhooked. The engineer said he would try to contact the manufacturer and then get back with me.

    the PBS channel enginner replied after checking with the Multiplexor manufacturer and they don't have a fix.

    This is the quote sent from the manufacturers, "Our findings were that the Voom Motorola DSR550 either hangs or reboots when it comes across a data casting signal. This occurs with our deployment merging data from a Triveni inserter through an LI mux or any datacast found through other stations. Unfortunately the only solution is to have the Voom user remove or lock out the station from their presets."
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    What does this mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gross67
    What does this mean?
    AFAIK, when it hangs or reboots it becomes useless for OTA, but I could be wrong. We run accross them from time to time where they have just locked out, because the satellite reciever part is "not authorized" or needs a download that isn't possible to get with voom being out of business.
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    If this is as bad as it may seem, all ota HD stations will eventually "datacast" on their signals like some PBS ones. We voom users will have to "hide" each as they begin to cause lockup or reboot - never to be able to view that channel again. I am not a doctor, but it looks like the boxes will need software upgrades which is not possible.

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    What might they datacast? AFAIK the only analog ota data casts is the same guide data that is going digital. I guess they might have moviebeam but I thought that usualy was also on a pBS station

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    I'm not understanding this. What data would they be sending out that would be on PBS but yet not on other channels as of yet?

    I know the multicast channels do show up as well as the network affliates. There's no guide but technically I think I could under theory hook up a pvr to this to make it get one....

    I think it might be a good idea to try to get in touch with the actual developers of voom (unoffically while off clock of course ) the more that can be understood the better. If we've already found out how to get into more internal menus who knows what else ?



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    Wait a minute I know EXACTLY what they are sending for data....it's a TV guide data that's on Guide Plus and other ones. It's part of the VBTI data that you can kinda see on old analog sets if you adjust the vhold. Take a look at between the pictures in the black area you might see things jumping around (random color lines mostly). The data is also used for closed captioning which is odd because you can turn that on and off with no problems.

    I've got a generic RCA PVR that I had a long battle with in terms of getting guide data (I blame that mostly due to the installation questions being worded wrong) but it's definatly JUST PBS that send out this data. It isn't a cable or satellite co and isn't the other major networks....so no we won't lose all the channels...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronniejay
    If this is as bad as it may seem, all ota HD stations will eventually "datacast" on their signals like some PBS ones. We voom users will have to "hide" each as they begin to cause lockup or reboot - never to be able to view that channel again. I am not a doctor, but it looks like the boxes will need software upgrades which is not possible.
    Sounds like the broadcasters are going to knowingly and intentionally "damage" my equipment and render it useless. I want compensation.

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    I think ATSC was designed with datacasting in mind so I bet the voom box in at fault

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    Quote Originally Posted by kb7oeb
    I think ATSC was designed with datacasting in mind so I bet the voom box in at fault

    Hmmm while I keep this in mind I'm also thinking of the other Direct tv receivers that als ocan pick up HDTV OTA....if worse comes to worse I guess I'll try to find one of those.

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    Remember that the Voom Receivers were an on-going process. The software was still relatively new in comparison to the software being used by Dish and Direc which had probably several revisions by the time Voom was about to announce it's own demise. PSIP data guide which was never enabled would have become a possibility if Voom had stayed up and running. Before anyone ever thought of shutting down Voom, the programmers for these receivers were hard at work to diagnose and fix current glitches and make these fixes available for future releases. Who knows what more possibilities these receivers could have had. A thought comes to mind though. Does anyone know if the programmers were working with the code prior to announcements in hopes of implementing fixes for the version that is now known as the last released version by Voom? Maybe we could pay off someone who holds the secrets to this architecture in their hands. I know Motorola no longer recognizes these, so what harm could it do?

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