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    Good DVR a VCR replacement

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    Anyone find a really good DVR that acts just like a VCR with built in tuner and all that. That I can set to come on at a certain time and channel. And work exactly like a VCR?

    Not wanting Tivo or Dish or Dtv DVR's just a regular VCR type DVR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PKII View Post
    Anyone find a really good DVR that acts just like a VCR with built in tuner and all that. That I can set to come on at a certain time and channel. And work exactly like a VCR?

    Not wanting Tivo or Dish or Dtv DVR's just a regular VCR type DVR.
    Not cheap, but...

    [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Philips-DVDR3576H-Recorder-160GB-Built/dp/B0013WM0BQ/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1247428216&sr=1-6"]Amazon.com: Philips DVDR3576H DVD Recorder with 160GB Hard Disc and Built-In Tuner: Electronics@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31sA9AHa5OL.@@AMEPARAM@@31sA9AHa5OL[/ame]

    As you mention, everything else either comes bundled with TIVO, or doesn't have an ATSC tuner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayn_j View Post
    Not cheap, but...


    Amazon.com: Philips DVDR3576H DVD Recorder with 160GB Hard Disc and Built-In Tuner: Electronics




    As you mention, everything else either comes bundled with TIVO, or doesn't have an ATSC tuner.
    Looking at this a little more closely, it appears that Phillips manufactured this last year under Phillips and Magnavox brands:

    [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Magnavox-HDD-amp-Recorder-%2528H2160MW9%2529/dp/B0020ZW8P8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1247429385&sr=1-1"]Amazon.com: MAGNAVOX H2160MW9 HDD and DVD Recorder with Digital Tuner, Black: Electronics@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/312zK0k%2B8CL.@@AMEPARAM@@312zK0k%2B8CL[/ame]

    Looks like it was discontinued and not replaced. The resellers are having a field day with the left over units for a product that used to MSRP at $279. Also note that it was recently closed out at Target (Magnavox), so there may be one in their bargain bin. Worth a look.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jayn_j View Post
    Not cheap, but...


    Amazon.com: Philips DVDR3576H DVD Recorder with 160GB Hard Disc and Built-In Tuner: Electronics




    As you mention, everything else either comes bundled with TIVO, or doesn't have an ATSC tuner.
    Ouch not cheap indeed.

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    Your original question is kinda confusing, because you say you don't want a 'dtv dvr', but you do want a dvr. DTV is for digital TV, so if you don't want a DTV one, then the only other option is analog tv, and those broadcasts went away (for the most part) in June. Methinks you want a digital TV recorder none-the-less.

    This is a lot cheaper and acts like a 'VCR', I guess:

    Dish Network DTVPal DVR




    You don't need to pay any monthly fees, it's not required to be a dish network subscriber and it's a lot cheaper then the previous option listed. If you don't like that, you may want to clarify what you really want.

    The comment about everything else either coming bundled with TIVO or no ATSC tuner is not true.


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    Hmmm, I could have sworn the original post said he wanted a DVD recorder with DVR capability. That's what I researched.

    If its just a DVR, I agree on the DTVPal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayn_j View Post
    Hmmm, I could have sworn the original post said he wanted a DVD recorder with DVR capability. That's what I researched.

    If its just a DVR, I agree on the DTVPal.
    I agree too. I had to do a lot of sorting out of DVD recorders to verify that the DTV Pal DVR was the best fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bebop View Post
    Your original question is kinda confusing, because you say you don't want a 'dtv dvr', but you do want a dvr. DTV is for digital TV, so if you don't want a DTV one, then the only other option is analog tv, and those broadcasts went away (for the most part) in June. Methinks you want a digital TV recorder none-the-less.

    This is a lot cheaper and acts like a 'VCR', I guess:

    Dish Network DTVPal DVR




    You don't need to pay any monthly fees, it's not required to be a dish network subscriber and it's a lot cheaper then the previous option listed. If you don't like that, you may want to clarify what you really want.

    The comment about everything else either coming bundled with TIVO or no ATSC tuner is not true.
    DTV = Directv at least to me that is what it means.

    I want what a VCR used to do. Since everything is digital and VHS is going away and DVR's are coming. I need a DVR that will receive the new digital signals. However, I do not want one that requires the signal to come from Directv or Dish Network. Aka time recordings. Remember setting the VCR to come on at 8pm then go off at 11pm? A DVR that does that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKII View Post
    DTV = Directv at least to me that is what it means.

    I want what a VCR used to do. Since everything is digital and VHS is going away and DVR's are coming. I need a DVR that will receive the new digital signals. However, I do not want one that requires the signal to come from Directv or Dish Network. Aka time recordings. Remember setting the VCR to come on at 8pm then go off at 11pm? A DVR that does that.
    I agree the DTVPal name is confusing, but this is what you want. In this case DTV stands for Digital TV. It is one of those digital converter boxes with an integrated DVR. Pretty much a DISH 510 with a digital tuner instead of a satellite receiver on the front end.

    Here is a link to the product:
    DTVPAL.COM


    Select the DTVPal DVR tab.

    Apparently, this unit is only available from Sears Online:

    DTVPAL DVR







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    Quote Originally Posted by jayn_j View Post
    I agree the DTVPal name is confusing, but this is what you want. In this case DTV stands for Digital TV. It is one of those digital converter boxes with an integrated DVR. Pretty much a DISH 510 with a digital tuner instead of a satellite receiver on the front end.

    Here is a link to the product:
    DTVPAL.COM


    Select the DTVPal DVR tab.

    Apparently, this unit is only available from Sears Online:

    DTVPAL DVR


    The link I gave above appears to work and is $50 cheaper than sears online (not factoring in shipping). So it may not be ONLY available through sears.

    We ought to re-iterate to the original poster that this method doesn't require someone to be a Dish Network subscriber nor use a Dish satellite.

    PKII, you can keep the $50 or the $300 for the savings tips. I'm feel like giving today.




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