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    I guess im just dreaming

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffjim4069 View Post
    It's a shame what has been happening at Dish Network lately...they make the best HD DVR and, until 18-months ago, they offered the most and best HD and provided an excellent value for a number of their programming package...but they turned to crap: DirecTV offers better value, they are getting killed by the Cable Triple Play, too many nickle & dime fees, the musical channels games is way past old, too many business dealings that wind up in litigation, they have not treated long-time customers very well (customers are churning in record numbers), programming packages are stupidly confusing, the Dish Network marketing department appears to be run by Moe, Larry and Curly, and they can't even schlock their OUTSTANDING DVRs to the Cable types because nobody wants to do business with EchoStar/Charlie Ergen since there is a 90% change the business arrangement will be headed to the courtroom one day. Mr. Ergen has been one sharp individual for bringing EchoStar/Dish Network to where they were in October 2007, but his tactics from that point forward have been questionable, at best. In a nutshell, I feel that Mr. Ergen is Dish Network's bigget problem! He needs to quickly update his tactics or step aside and let someone else run the show.

    Anyway, just my two cents...
    Very well said. I could not have said it better myself.

    If have to say that the only reason why i still have dish is the equipment as well.
    I have Direc, att and starchoice.

    Dish has the superior equipment by far. Their programming has been going down.
    ill tell you, when they had Voom plus the new additions before the takedown I was in heaven.

    Nothing could compare.

    Since then they(dish) have actually gotten worse (programming wise then the competition.

    I really like direcs programming but the equipment is below average. Maybe because I have the VIP722.

    Uverse, still an unproven entity. Tons of potential. However, Im not sold on them yet. Plus they dont have the tennis channel. That kills me.

    As the above stated these providers have a little of everything. However nothing is heads above the rest..

    Dish use to be...

    I wish a company would take the mantle on really being the best.
    Best equipment
    Best programming
    Best prices
    Great customer service..without pulling channels at will.

    I guess im just dreaming...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargazer View Post
    The Dish hardware is also what keeps me around. If it were not for that, I would have already been gone long ago.
    Ditto. The DirecTV HR series while it has greatly improved over the years isn't as good as the Dish DVR's.
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    Perfect Scott well put, took some balls to publish that. Thank you.

    Maybe some of the stock market guys who get to ask questions at the earnings call will push Charlie on this and Charlie will wakeup from his Billionaire dream land and start acting on fixing the issues.

    Dish should be worried, some day cable and directv will catch up hardware wise, then there will be no reason to go with dish, or maybe that has already happened at some level and thats why customers are dropping.
    "We need more power Scotty"

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    Dish better pray DirecTV never catches up to the Dish Hardware. D already caught up and passsed up E* in the HD field. HD, Voom and hardware is what got me to pick Dish over Direct, two out of the three no longer apply.

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    Now the number was 102k who dropped DishN, how many people went to lower priced packages? I did. Now with the price increase I will be considering DirectTV over DishN. If I decide to move back up in my package coverage. Is there that much difference in hardware quality? One thing DirectTV has that I would really like DishN to add is the Mtn. sports network. I would be a motive to move DirectTV.

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