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    72.7 has most of the HD
    61.5 has the locals and SD (but has some HD still)

    Both are the same powerwise and between a 1m and a 1.2m dish the rainfade would be pretty much the same (give or take a couple seconds)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceberg View Post
    72.7 has most of the HD
    61.5 has the locals and SD (but has some HD still)

    Both are the same powerwise and between a 1m and a 1.2m dish the rainfade would be pretty much the same (give or take a couple seconds)

    Good stuff to know! Thank you..

    I think I will put the 1.2m dish towards 61.5 since that one is going to be a bit close to the tree line right next to it. Hopefully that will help.
    I'm pretty sure that 72.7 will be a straight shot with no tree issues so I'll put the 1m on that satellite.
    I think this will work out just fine. I'm thinking, though not sure that the dishes I'll be using are substantially larger that any dishes you can get from Dish Network so I'm hoping that it will be a rare thing to lose signal in all but full tilt hurricanes.

    I've dug through the junk box left behind for me and I found two LNB's that I am sure will work.
    One is a generic circular LNB that says it's Directv and Dish Network compatible and has a 40mm neck so I can clamp it into the 1.2m dish easily.
    Another is a standard Directv LNB that I pried open last year. I found the plastic shell is just a rain cover and that the LNB neck is pretty small inside it.
    I cut the plastic shell back to expose the metal neck inside and it will clamp right into the 1m dish without a problem.

    So I'm in good shape without breaking the bank. Now it's just a matter of running another wire underground. That's gonna be tons of fun.
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    One is a generic circular LNB that says it's Directv and Dish Network compatible and has a 40mm neck so I can clamp it into the 1.2m dish easily.
    Another is a standard Directv LNB that I pried open last year. I found the plastic shell is just a rain cover and that the LNB neck is pretty small inside it.
    I cut the plastic shell back to expose the metal neck inside and it will clamp right into the 1m dish without a problem.
    both should work fine. The SW21 is what you would use to combine them together (Dish has their own switching setup so you would have to use the SW21 and not a normal Diseqc switch)
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    Two 6 foot Fortec dish with GeoSatPro dual C-Band LNB "ghetto moved" to various C-Band satellites

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    Oh, something occurred to me, is there a sub-forum here that is for Dish Network folks?
    I've never really looked outside of the FTA forums.

    I didn't see anything that looked to be Dish specific, maybe I'm just blind..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee_Ann
    Oh, something occurred to me, is there a sub-forum here that is for Dish Network folks?
    I've never really looked outside of the FTA forums.

    I didn't see anything that looked to be Dish specific, maybe I'm just blind..
    Under Entertainment Providers there is a Dish forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isaacmorseMI View Post
    Under Entertainment Providers there is a Dish forum.

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    Oh cool! Thank you!

    Oh! I found it! A long time ago I set those sub forums to not show because at the time I never thought I would ever have need of them! DOH!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee_Ann View Post
    Oh cool! Thank you!

    Oh! I found it! A long time ago I set those sub forums to not show because at the time I never thought I would ever have need of them! DOH!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee_Ann View Post
    Oh cool! Thank you!

    Oh! I found it! A long time ago I set those sub forums to not show because at the time I never thought I would ever have need of them! DOH!!
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    Good news and bad news..

    The tuner came in two days early and in perfect condition. No damage to the box, everything looks excellent, everything looks like brand new, as promised.
    Thank you very much!

    The bad news is, my yard drained off enough to go outside with my iPhone and the dishpointer app and I was extremely disappointed to discover that there is a freaking pecan tree right smack in the way of 61.5 and even 72.7 is borderline..

    So those satellites are off the table, at least from the "dish farm" as you guys like to call it..

    So, my only options are, install/convert three dishes (in the farm) and aim them at 110/119/129

    Going through my collection of FTA parts and stuff, I can make only two dishes.
    I have a gob of Directway dishes which are all linear and you can't change out the LNB except for an exact replacement of their own weird, unique and proprietary LNB.
    I guess I could convert one of my larger dishes that I'm using for PBS on 125 but I would hate to do that. I suppose I could use a smaller Directway for PBS and use the big dish for the third Dishnet dish.
    If so I would also have to purchase another LNB for it and a 1x3 Dish switch.

    The other option would be to purchase a 1000.4 dish and put it on the side of my house which would skirt the tree problem. But then I'm looking at $100+ for the dish kit and another $40 shipping..

    I think I can do the three dishes out back but I'm looking at a LOT of work and running another wire. The upside to it is that this would cost a lot less than buying a 1000.4 dish and they are substantially larger and should give me a huge advantage when it comes to rain fade!

    I would have to give up and compromise some of my FTA dishes but it wouldn't be too much of a loss. I think if I re-jigger my dishes around I can continue to get all the same things I've been getting.
    A few of the dishes exist to receive one and only one channel per dish. Like I have a 1.2m dish setup just to get FSTV only. Well that will be on Dishnet so no loss there. Besides, the FTA feed is very, very touchy and unstable even with the big dish.

    Aw dang it... I just went outside to the side of my house where I was thinking I could put a dish and checked with my iPhone and the trees are in the way there as well. So the eastern satellites are just not going to happen, at all.
    I guess I don't have to worry about buying a 1000.4 dish kit.

    It looks like I'm going to have a MAJOR redo of pretty much all my smaller dishes, there's no escaping it.
    At least this way I can use my Birddog meter to align my dishes, there are mpeg2 signals on all three. I wouldn't have been able to use my meter to align 72.7...

    As always, fun, fun, fun....



    GAH!!!!!!!!! My Bird dog meter won't update now! I plug the cable in and it gives an error..

    Edit: fixed that, the cable was mashed and the pins weren't contacting. I had to straighten out the mashed plastic. Good to go..
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    The tuner came in two days early and in perfect condition. No damage to the box, everything looks excellent, everything looks like brand new, as promised.
    Thank you very much!
    sweet. Kinda shocked that you got it two days early (they told me Friday at the post office) but I make sure its packed properly

    The bad news is, my yard drained off enough to go outside with my iPhone and the dishpointer app and I was extremely disappointed to discover that there is a freaking pecan tree right smack in the way of 61.5 and even 72.7 is borderline..
    bummer.....

    Going through my collection of FTA parts and stuff, I can make only two dishes.
    I have a gob of Directway dishes which are all linear and you can't change out the LNB except for an exact replacement of their own weird, unique and proprietary LNB.
    I guess I could convert one of my larger dishes that I'm using for PBS on 125 but I would hate to do that. I suppose I could use a smaller Directway for PBS and use the big dish for the third Dishnet dish.
    an option is to try and put a DBS LNB next to that dish. Since the DBS signals are strong you could get by slapping one next to 125W for 129 or even 119. The larger dish will help with the signals even if off centre. Here is a pic of a DirecPC dish for 95W with a LNB for 91 next to it (when I had a Bell sub)



    If so I would also have to purchase another LNB for it .
    just find a single or dual output Directv LNB. Heck since you're a pub member create a wanted ad. I'm sure someone would have some extras laying around that they'd sell dirt cheap

    and a 1x3 Dish switch
    I knew I should have thrown that SW31 in the box. I'll send that out snail mail in a bubble envelope. Its like the SW21 but for 3 sats. Its an aftermarket item (Dish doesnt make one ) but it will work fine

    The other option would be to purchase a 1000.4 dish and put it on the side of my house which would skirt the tree problem. But then I'm looking at $100+ for the dish kit and another $40 shipping..
    you mean a 1000.2 and it should be under $100 if you went that route

    I would have to give up and compromise some of my FTA dishes but it wouldn't be too much of a loss. I think if I re-jigger my dishes around I can continue to get all the same things I've been getting.
    A few of the dishes exist to receive one and only one channel per dish. Like I have a 1.2m dish setup just to get FSTV only. Well that will be on Dishnet so no loss there. Besides, the FTA feed is very, very touchy and unstable even with the big dish.
    you could jimmy rig something with 119 & 110 on the same dish as example. Lots of options

    Aw dang it... I just went outside to the side of my house where I was thinking I could put a dish and checked with my iPhone and the trees are in the way there as well. So the eastern satellites are just not going to happen, at all.
    I guess I don't have to worry about buying a 1000.4 dish kit.
    a 1000.2 dish would work (for 110/119/129). If you go the actual Dish route it doesnt matter which arc you go in your case as its all one dish.
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