Thread: vBulletin Dropping IE 6 & 7 Support

This is from the vBulletin Team... Thought I would pass it along. (vBulletin is the forum software we use here at SatelliteGuys.)

Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 and 7 no longer supported.

After extensive deliberation and an in-depth analysis of global browser trends, we have decided to drop support for both Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 and 7 with the release of vBulletin 4.2. Given their rapid decline in market share over the past year, Microsoft's recent decision to follow Chrome and Firefox with the implementation of silent updates , and the numerous hacks/kludges we've implemented in vB4 specifically for IE 6 & 7, we've concluded that continuing support will rapidly become untenable over the coming year. This has been a difficult decision for the vBulletin team. While we respect the needs of all of our customers, dropping support for IE 6 & 7 will allow us to improve user experience for the vast majority of license holders, more effectively leverage our development resources, and enable us to move forward with exciting new vB4 projects. We will support IE 6 & 7 in the upcoming release of vBulletin 4.1.11, and any additional 4.1.x release that may follow. This change will only go into effect with the 4.2.x series. Please feel free to discuss this change - HERE . Thank you for you continuing support of vBulletin 4! Sincerely, The vB4 Team

I firmly believe that they should drop (or not support in the first place) any browsers that demand considerable custom coding.

A firm message needs to be sent to the browser developers that blowing off the W3C standards and/or encouraging use of proprietary methods is not an option.

Agreed. That should have been an easy decision for them.

There go all our Chinese visitors.

I have to think that anyone who's savvy enough with computers to participate in online forums uses a more up-to-date version of IE if not Firefox or Chrome.

This amounts to nothing more than a "we announced we were dropping support..." and at least gave people a heads-up. On the other hand, how many users still on IE6 or IE7 will run across an announcement like this ?

These are the IE browser stats just for yesterday here at SatelliteGuys.

	Msie 10.0	No	492	0 %
	Msie 9.0.8112.16421	No	2	0 %
	Msie 9	No	7	0 %
	Msie 9.0	No	1,033,468	15.3 %
	Msie 8	No	9	0 %
	Msie 8.0	No	1,004,490	14.9 %
	Msie 7.0	No	307,834	4.5 %
	Msie 6.1	No	40	0 %
	Msie 6	No	5	0 %
	Msie 6.0	No	28,825	0.4 %
	Msie 5.23	No	6	0 %
	Msie 5.17	No	4	0 %
	Msie 5.5	No	306	0 %
	Msie 5.01	No	19	0 %
	Msie 5.0	No	159	0 %
	Msie 4.01	No	40	0 %
	Msie 3.02	No	88	0 %
	Msie 3.01	No	1	0 %
	Msie 3.0	No	1	0 %
	Msie 2.0

Here is Firefox. (Man some people REALLY need to upgrade!)

	Firefox 13.0	No	264	0 %
	Firefox 12.0	No	1,214	0 %
	Firefox 11.0	No	2,992	0 %
	Firefox 10.0	No	312,836	4.6 %
	Firefox 9.1	No	2,804	0 %
	Firefox 9.0.1	No	860,757	12.8 %
	Firefox 9.0	No	4,808	0 %
	Firefox 8.0.1	No	38,470	0.5 %
	Firefox 8.0	No	21,361	0.3 %
	Firefox 7.0.1	No	41,895	0.6 %
	Firefox 7.0	No	2,266	0 %
	Firefox 6.0.2	No	9,525	0.1 %
	Firefox 6.0.1	No	2,327	0 %
	Firefox 6.0	No	3,702	0 %
	Firefox 5.02	No	4	0 %
	Firefox 5.0.1	No	7,235	0.1 %
	Firefox 5.0	No	17,300	0.2 %
	Firefox 4.0.1	No	25,042	0.3 %
	Firefox 4.0	No	8,818	0.1 %
	Firefox 3.8	No	104	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.152011	No	1	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.29	No	4	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.28	No	32	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.26	No	101,580	1.5 %
	Firefox 3.6.25	No	249,788	3.7 %
	Firefox 3.6.24	No	36,961	0.5 %
	Firefox 3.6.23	No	2,245	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.22	No	1,024	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.21	No	87	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.20	No	219	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.19	No	892	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.18	No	1,270	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.17	No	2,983	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.16	No	20,867	0.3 %
	Firefox 3.6.15	No	1,476	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.13	No	34,619	0.5 %
	Firefox 3.6.12	No	2,139	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.11	No	10,079	0.1 %
	Firefox 3.6.10	No	10,737	0.1 %
	Firefox 3.6.9	No	769	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.8	No	37,691	0.5 %
	Firefox 3.6.7	No	478	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.6	No	1,585	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.4	No	250	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.3	No	5,154	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.2	No	170	0 %
	Firefox 3.6.1	No	7	0 %
	Firefox 3.6	No	1,839	0 %
	Firefox 3.5.19	No	756	0 %
	Firefox 3.5.18	No	36	0 %
	Firefox 3.5.17	No	215	0 %
	Firefox 3.5.16	No	7,574	0.1 %
	Firefox 3.5.15	No	69	0 %
	Firefox 3.5.13	No	2	0 %
	Firefox 3.5.11	No	516	0 %
	Firefox 3.5.10	No	41	0 %
	Firefox 3.5.9	No	4	0 %
	Firefox 3.5.8	No	990	0 %
	Firefox 3.5.7	No	75	0 %
	Firefox 3.5.6	No	8,852	0.1 %
	Firefox 3.5.5	No	12,639	0.1 %
	Firefox 3.5.4	No	245	0 %
	Firefox 3.5.3	No	3,446	0 %
	Firefox 3.5.2	No	379	0 %
	Firefox 3.5.1	No	446	0 %
	Firefox 3.5	No	19,086	0.2 %
	Firefox 3.1	No	6	0 %
	Firefox 3.0.19	No	3,449	0 %
	Firefox 3.0.18	No	287	0 %
	Firefox 3.0.17	No	25	0 %
	Firefox 3.0.15	No	3,797	0 %
	Firefox 3.0.14	No	160	0 %
	Firefox 3.0.13	No	2	0 %
	Firefox 3.0.11	No	33	0 %
	Firefox 3.0.10	No	7,261	0.1 %
	Firefox 3.0.9	No	37	0 %
	Firefox 3.0.8	No	254	0 %
	Firefox 3.0.7	No	405	0 %
	Firefox 3.0.6	No	48	0 %
	Firefox 3.0.5	No	2,664	0 %
	Firefox 3.0.4	No	175	0 %
	Firefox 3.0.3	No	115	0 %
	Firefox 3.0.2	No	2	0 %
	Firefox 3.0.1	No	812	0 %
	Firefox 3.0	No	1,519	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.24	No	36	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.22	No	222	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.20	No	717	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.16	No	3	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.14	No	42	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.13	No	1	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.12	No	49	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.11	No	28	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.10	No	52	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.9	No	58	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.8	No	89	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.7	No	50	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.6	No	253	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.4	No	10	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.3	No	319	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.2	No	1	0 %
	Firefox 2.0.0.1	No	30	0 %
	Firefox 2.0	No	4	0 %
	Firefox 1.5.0.12	No	342	0 %
	Firefox 1.5.0.9	No	2	0 %
	Firefox 1.5.0.7	No	31	0 %
	Firefox 1.5.0.3	No	6	0 %
	Firefox 1.5	No	36	0 %
	Firefox 1.4	No	2	0 %
	Firefox 1.0.7	No	76	0 %
	Firefox 1.0.6	No	7	0 %
	Firefox 1.0.5	No	3	0 %
	Firefox 1.0.4	No	2	0 %
	Firefox 1.0	No	1	0 %
	Firefox 0.10.1	No	4	0 %
	Firefox 0.10	No	1	0 %
	Firefox 0.8

And here are the rest.

NETSCAPE			1,522	0 %
	Netscape 8.1	No	2	0 %
	Netscape 7.0	No	6	0 %
	Netscape 6.2.1	No	6	0 %
	Netscape 5.0	No	1,196	0 %
	Netscape 4.79	No	108	0 %
	Netscape 4.76	No	35	0 %
	Netscape 4.8	No	6	0 %
	Netscape 4.7	No	4	0 %
	Netscape 4.5	No	1	0 %
	Netscape 4.0	No	72	0 %
	Netscape 0.91	No	42	0 %
	Netscape 0.6	No	42	0 %
	Netscape ?	No	2	0 %
OPERA			86,135	1.2 %
	Opera 9.80	No	84,798	1.2 %
	Opera 9.70	No	128	0 %
	Opera 9.64	No	136	0 %
	Opera 9.63	No	54	0 %
	Opera 9.60	No	36	0 %
	Opera 9.50	No	61	0 %
	Opera 9.30	No	75	0 %
	Opera 9.27	No	30	0 %
	Opera 9.24	No	304	0 %
	Opera 9.20	No	22	0 %
	Opera 9.10	No	2	0 %
	Opera 9.5	No	76	0 %
	Opera 9.01	No	52	0 %
	Opera 9.0	No	5	0 %
	Opera 9.00	No	104	0 %
	Opera 8.01	No	70	0 %
	Opera 8.00	No	29	0 %
	Opera 7.60	No	74	0 %
	Opera 7.54	No	51	0 %
	Opera 7.11	No	28	0 %
SAFARI			168,639	2.5 %
	Safari 7.2.0.0	No	205	0 %
	Safari 7.1.0.205	No	7	0 %
	Safari 7.1.0.163	No	177	0 %
	Safari 7.1.0.7	No	1,664	0 %
	Safari 7.0.0.585	No	7	0 %
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	Safari 7.0.0.540	No	7	0 %
	Safari 7.0.0.353	No	3	0 %
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	Safari 6.0.0.719	No	12	0 %
	Safari 6.0.0.706	No	74	0 %
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	Safari 6.0.0.246	No	148	0 %
	Safari 5.10.3	No	78	0 %
	Safari 5.1.4	No	191	0 %
	Safari 5.1.3	No	6,631	0 %
	Safari 5.1.2	No	55,424	0.8 %
	Safari 5.1.1	No	3,389	0 %
	Safari 5.1	No	50,185	0.7 %
	Safari 5.0.6	No	8,300	0.1 %
	Safari 5.0.5	No	3,303	0 %
	Safari 5.0.4	No	823	0 %
	Safari 5.0.3	No	494	0 %
	Safari 5.0.2	No	13,123	0.1 %
	Safari 5.0.1	No	97	0 %
	Safari 5.0	No	7,378	0.1 %
	Safari 4.1.3	No	2,982	0 %
	Safari 4.1.1	No	47	0 %
	Safari 4.0.5	No	1,225	0 %
	Safari 4.0.4	No	779	0 %
	Safari 4.0.3	No	303	0 %
	Safari 4.0.2	No	231	0 %
	Safari 4.0	No	1,839	0 %
	Safari 3.2.1	No	37	0 %
	Safari 3.1.2	No	307	0 %
	Safari 3.1.1	No	22	0 %
	Safari 3.0.4	No	303	0 %
	Safari 3.0	No	12	0 %
	Safari 2.0.4	No	2	0 %
	Safari 2.0.1	No	140	0 %
	Safari 1.0	No	340	0 %
	Safari ?	No	7,900	0.1 %
CHROME			1,971,292	29.3 %
	Chrome 18.0.1025.3	No	418	0 %
	Chrome 18.0.1025.2	No	1,817	0 %
	Chrome 18.0.1025.1	No	12,228	0.1 %
	Chrome 18.0.1025.0	No	26	0 %
	Chrome 18.0.1017.3	No	27	0 %
	Chrome 18.0.1017.2	No	4,444	0 %
	Chrome 18.0.1011.0	No	112	0 %
	Chrome 18.0.1010.1	No	186	0 %
	Chrome 18.0.1003.1	No	133	0 %
	Chrome 18.0.997.0	No	6	0 %
	Chrome 18.0.996.0	No	833	0 %
	Chrome 18.0.972.0	No	35	0 %
	Chrome 17.0.963.46	No	63,910	0.9 %
	Chrome 17.0.963.44	No	1,795	0 %
	Chrome 17.0.963.43	No	31	0 %
	Chrome 17.0.963.38	No	4,623	0 %
	Chrome 17.0.963.26	No	91	0 %
	Chrome 17.0.963.12	No	402	0 %
	Chrome 17.0.963.2	No	1,077	0 %
	Chrome 17.0.963.0	No	72	0 %
	Chrome 17.0.961.0	No	29	0 %
	Chrome 17.0.942.0	No	44	0 %
	Chrome 17.0.938.0	No	33	0 %
	Chrome 16.0.950.0	No	768	0 %
	Chrome 16.0.912.77	No	1,671,568	24.8 %
	Chrome 16.0.912.75	No	143,347	2.1 %
	Chrome 16.0.912.63	No	7,330	0.1 %
	Chrome 16.0.912.59	No	290	0 %
	Chrome 16.0.912.21	No	68	0 %
	Chrome 16.0.912.4	No	144	0 %
	Chrome 16.0.904.0	No	104	0 %
	Chrome 16.0.891.0	No	37	0 %
	Chrome 16.0.889.0	No	290	0 %
	Chrome 16.0.888.0	No	7	0 %
	Chrome 16.0.883.0	No	192	0 %
	Chrome 15.0.900.1	No	103	0 %
	Chrome 15.0.874.121	No	1,047	0 %
	Chrome 15.0.874.120	No	431	0 %
	Chrome 15.0.874.106	No	33,790	0.5 %
	Chrome 15.0.874.102	No	124	0 %
	Chrome 15.0.874.83	No	16	0 %
	Chrome 15.0.874.58	No	32	0 %
	Chrome 15.0.861.0	No	35	0 %
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	Chrome 14.0.835.202	No	2,754	0 %
	Chrome 14.0.835.187	No	2,367	0 %
	Chrome 14.0.835.186	No	852	0 %
	Chrome 14.0.835.163	No	74	0 %
	Chrome 14.0.835.15	No	1	0 %
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	Chrome 14.0.825.0	No	34	0 %
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	Chrome 14.0.814.0	No	33	0 %
	Chrome 14.0.803.0	No	36	0 %
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	Chrome 14.0.794.0	No	40	0 %
	Chrome 13.0.782.220	No	269	0 %
	Chrome 13.0.782.218	No	73	0 %
	Chrome 13.0.782.215	No	192	0 %
	Chrome 13.0.782.112	No	167	0 %
	Chrome 13.0.782.107	No	313	0 %
	Chrome 13.0.782.14	No	3	0 %
	Chrome 13.0.772.0	No	59	0 %
	Chrome 13.0.767.1	No	34	0 %
	Chrome 13.0.750.0	No	34	0 %
	Chrome 12.0.742.124	No	49	0 %
	Chrome 12.0.742.122	No	601	0 %
	Chrome 12.0.742.112	No	459	0 %
	Chrome 12.0.742.100	No	212	0 %
	Chrome 12.0.742.91	No	40	0 %
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	Chrome 12.0.742	No	3,239	0 %
	Chrome 11.0.696.77	No	1,087	0 %
	Chrome 11.0.696.71	No	59	0 %
	Chrome 11.0.696.68	No	1,158	0 %
	Chrome 11.0.696.65	No	268	0 %
	Chrome 11.0.696.60	No	195	0 %
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	Chrome 10.0.650.1	No	2	0 %
	Chrome 10.0.648.205	No	271	0 %
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	Chrome 7.0.517.44	No	195	0 %
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	Chrome 6.0.495.0	No	34	0 %
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	Chrome 0.	No	2	0 %
KONQUEROR			111	0 %
	Konqueror 4.7	No	1	0 %
	Konqueror 4.3	No	99	0 %
	Konqueror 3.5	No	1	0 %
	Konqueror 3.1	No	10	0 %
Others			135,434	2 %
	Android browser (PDA/Phone browser)	No	53,445	0.7 %
	Unknown	?	25,639	0.3 %
	IPhone (PDA/Phone browser)	No	21,855	0.3 %
	Mozilla	No	11,356	0.1 %
	iCab	No	9,205	0.1 %
	Iceweasel	No	7,817	0.1 %
	Samsung (PDA/Phone browser)	No	2,021	0 %
	LG (PDA/Phone browser)	No	1,070	0 %
	BlackBerry (PDA/Phone browser)	No	730	0 %
	Apple iTunes (media player)	No	576	0 %
	SeaMonkey	No	540	0 %
	Nokia Browser (PDA/Phone browser)	No	269	0 %
	K-Meleon	No	130	0 %
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	FeedDemon (RSS Reader)	No	115	0 %
	GreatNews (RSS Reader)	No	108	0 %
	UP.Browser (PDA/Phone browser)	No	97	0 %
	Flock	No	80	0 %
	OSSProxy	No	77	0 %
	Motorola Browser (PDA/Phone browser)	No	68	0 %
	GranParadiso (Firefox 3.0 development)	No	34	0 %
	Alcatel Browser (PDA/Phone browser)	No	20	0 %
	Vienna (RSS Reader)	No	17	0 %
	NetShow Player (media player)	No	16	0 %
	WebTV browser	No	6	0 %
	Galeon	No	5	0 %
	Vodaphone browser (PDA/Phone browser)	No	4	0 %
	Gnome FileSystem Abstraction library	No	2	0 %
	iBrowse	No	2	0 %

Originally Posted by Scott Greczkowski

Here is Firefox. (Man some people REALLY need to upgrade!)

Ah, but as these browsers "force" updates and start bloating their programs to the point where they don't load and perform quickly, efficiently, and without
lots of "garbage" the older versions look more attractive! It's the "less is more theory for me." I'll admit...I' back in the 3.xx versions of firefox because the new ones seem to have more issues, more often! Tried the newest, latest versions of firefox....then uninstalled, went BACK on all my machines to a known stable and faster version! And, for one simple reason.....In our studios, I can leave an old version of firefox running, come back, hit refresh and IT WORKS. The newer ones, left alone when you walk away freeze up after a time....causing about a 5 minute wait when you quickly need them!

So, back to the old for us! (keeping windows, antivirus, and other factors current, of course.)

Seems like everyone that writes these "codes" wants to force a bunch of garbage on the browsers and their users. ME? Simple is good. If it takes a couple different alternative browsers that are simple to render all my usual needs, I'm all for it. (early firefox, k-meleon, etc.)