I received my official letter today.

[andrews777]

I am qualified to say that Christians are supposed to "love one another" since that is a clear command in Scripture. Those who don't follow the Scriptures can certainly do whatever they please.

"If someone doesn't love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen. "

Calling another believer an idiot in public just because that brother believed God would help him would seem to be covered. Whether you believe that or not is not my problem.

Believe what you want. Oh yeah, I am supposed to be "forcing my views". Unfortunately (or is it fortunately?), I am not. You can believe what you want....



Insulting me doesn't make your position any more accurate, though that is a common tactic of those who don't have anything to stand on.

Feel free to insult me a few more times, I am going to let this go now. If anyone else has questions, please be sure to let me know.

Brad

[lumpkin666]

It's probably time to move on from the name calling and get back to the purpose of this forum anyhow.

[andrews777]

It's probably time to move on from the name calling and get back to the purpose of this forum anyhow.

Good point. I tend to grab a point a bit too hard sometimes.

Brad

[lumpkin666]

Good point. I tend to grab a point a bit too hard sometimes.

Brad

*lol* I hear ya.. me too!

[Orvsat]

Sorry for my delay in response; I've been busy. There has been some discussion to my previous post. I have no problem trusting God for guidance in where I should go once SkyAngel goes dark. When I was searching for a replacement car a few years ago he provided far better than I expected. I wound up purchasing a new car from a dealer who was closing for the what I figured I would spend on a used one.

Although there is a real temptation to go after SkyAngel legally I ruled that option out personally. All that will be accomplished in a class action suit is that we will get a few bucks and SkyAngel will probably go broke. I hope their IPTV efforts succeed although I will probably not make the move with them.

If SkyAngel is sued and goes broke I find it hard to believe that any other company will be eager to jump into the Christian satellite or IPTV arena.

[retiredTech]

The reason that reasonably priced broadband will take many years to be available "everywhere" is simple "cost per mile".
Unless rural broadband is "subsidized" it will be a long,long time before lower population areas get broadband. It simply isn't profitable to build (or improve) the delivery systems.

[Bill R]

Although there is a real temptation to go after SkyAngel legally I ruled that option out personally. All that will be accomplished in a class action suit is that we will get a few bucks and SkyAngel will probably go broke. I hope their IPTV efforts succeed although I will probably not make the move with them.

I have not decided if I am going to join in a class action lawsuit if there is one. All I know is that a lot of lifetime subscribers are receiving their letters and they are highly pissed. I have talked to about half a dozen from our church and besides being lifetime subscribers they have made contributions to Sky Angel throughout its lifetime and they feel betrayed. One told me that we should all get together and "put them out of business". He went on "I don't care if we don't win one red cent in court. When we are finished with them they will never be able to cheat anyone again.". I have not heard yet from the dozen or so other menbers from our church that are lifetime subscribers but my feelings are that a few of them are going to just (if not more) upset. As to whether what Sky Angel is doing is legal or not seems to becoming less important. There is growing hositility in the Christian community that has supported Sky Angel for all these years. I have a feeling that all this is going to get very nasty very quickly after Sky Angel shuts down satellite service on March 31st.

[kevinbct]

I'm fairly young...late 20's, so I don't know the answer.... but when telephone service and cable service was rolled out to nearly the whole country....did the US government offer subsidies to bring it to rural areas?

I read whispers of this from various states and Congress, but I don't here too much real action being taken... Talk is pretty cheap in Washington these days.

[Bill R]

Kevin,

Yes, telephone service was subsidied but, not by the government, but by business customers (and that is still true in some area today for landline phone companies). The govenment permitted telephone companies to charge businesses MUCH higher rates than the actual cost of service in order to keep the rates lower for residence customers. At one point (in the 70s before the breakup of the Bell System) residential customers were paying about half of what it really cost to provide the service. After the government broke up the Bell System and allowed other companies to come into the marketplace that whole model pretty much went out the window.

[kevinbct]

Kevin,

Yes, telephone service was subsidied but, not by the government, but by business customers (and that is still true in some area today for landline phone companies). The govenment permitted telephone companies to charge businesses MUCH higher rates than the actual cost of service in order to keep the rates lower for residence customers. At one point (in the 70s before the breakup of the Bell System) residential customers were paying about half of what it really cost to provide the service. After the government broke up the Bell System and allowed other companies to come into the marketplace that whole model pretty much went out the window.

Thanks for the history lesson Bill....you taught me something.


I can tell you that in my home area of Connecticut, AT&T the local phone company charges about 5 bucks more for a regular home office phone line that would allow you to have a business listing in the white pages. I'm sure its even more for a "real business" line.