I received my official letter today.

[tlcraw4d]

We invested in a lifetime subscription to Sky Angel programming. We did not invested in a satellite delivery method. Robert Jr seems to indicate in his Dominion letter that the "death" that ends our lifetime is their business decision to use a different delivery method for our Sky Angel programming. He even went to the trouble of changing the business name to dump the lifetime subscribers.
Take a look at skyangel.com. Sky Angel programming is clearly alive. Even a "reasonable ordinary person" can see that the Sky Angel programming has not changed it's just the delivery method that has changed.
I would have expected (and still do expect) that those of us with lifetime subscriptions be allowed to continue receiving the programming via the new delivery method. That's a reasonable request as that's what we invested in a lifetime subscription for. We didn't create the lifetime subscription. We responded to Sky Angel's offer and took them up on it. Clearly the father of Sky Angel needed our investment at that time and was willing to provide a lifetime of Sky Angel programming in return.

I'm only asking to receive what my investment paid for, a lifetime subscription to Sky Angel programming. I'm willing to spend the $149 for the set top box needed to receive the programming via the new delivery method.

If a class action is what it takes to get Robert Jr to correctly address this issue. I would participate. This would not go to court, very few actually do, it would go to arbitration. I have no interest in destroying Sky Angel as a company. In receiving the programming we already paid for over the last several years, we haven't destroyed them. I don't expect that continuing to receive the programming would hurt them either. I don't appreciate the efforts to dump the lifetime subscriber community while they go ahead and deliver the same Sky Angel product that we are currently receiving.

On the other hand, if they had decided to give up on Sky Angel programming all together, I would have understood that the lifetime of our subscription is over.

I don't think it is too much to ask to continue receiving the Sky Angel programming via the new IPTV delivery method. For those lifers that don't have broadband access currently but do get it in the future, they should also be able to continue their lifetime subscription when broadband access is available to them.

Who here thought they invested in a life subscription to satellite delivery of Sky Angel programming versus a lifetime subscription to the Sky Angel programming itself? This is where the real issue is defined.

Todd

[catkoko]

Very well put but its falling on deaf ears sky angel monitors these and other boards. I even contacted nancy the VP of the company.

They had originally stated there would be a 'special offer" to lifetime members but that they would not honor lifetime subs. However the only offer was the same as made t the general public, commit for 18 months and get a free box.


The lifetimers who read this board are only a small portion of all the lifetime subs that skyangel sold. there is strength and unity in #s. Somehow word needs to get out to those lifetimers who do NOT have internet that there are those who want to dispute sky angels policy. Only then would you have a successful chance at negitiating with skyangel.

[Bill R]

Even though the new Sky Angel IPTV doesn't have DVR, it does have access to programs from the last 48 hours on the faith TV channels. That is almost the same advantage as DVR.

DVRs have so many advantages over programs available via IPTV (only available for 48 hours) the "contest" isn't even close. For those of us that have had DVRs since 1999 it is another reason not to even consider IPTV service now. That not only applies to SKy Angel's service but ANY IPTV service that does not include a DVR.

[catkoko]

If sky angel is continuing to broadcast angel one via dbs/dish, shouldn't the lifetimers be entitled to at least receive that at no charge?

[TheKrell]

If sky angel is continuing to broadcast angel one via dbs/dish, shouldn't the lifetimers be entitled to at least receive that at no charge?

Actually it's FTA right now on 119, along with the NASA channel and a number of Dish info channels.

You never know when the free ride will end, though. I bought a FTA PC card for the music; unfortunately as of a couple of weeks ago, the CD and AUD channels are now scrambled.

[Scroll]

Hold the phone!

I have had no luck setting up my FTA. But I DO have a 2-position Dish 500 dish with integrated lnb and a dish pointed at 61.5.

So are you saying that I should be able to connect one of these antennas to my FTA receiver and be able to receive SA on 119?

I have yet to even get a signal strength on my FTA receiver so if I understand you correctly I should be able to at least see if my box is a doorstop or not, no?

[RedSavina]

So are you saying that I should be able to connect one of these antennas to my FTA receiver and be able to receive SA on 119?

AngelOne (not the entire SA package, of course) and NASA - for the time being...

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I'm going to have to give that a try. So can I use the switch integrated lnb or would it have to be the dish with the single lnb?

[lumpkin666]

I'm going to have to give that a try. So can I use the switch integrated lnb or would it have to be the dish with the single lnb?

Either will work. You'll need to set the diseqc settings appropriately for the internal switch to work if you use that lnbf though.

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Still no luck. I tried that and 61.5 and my receiver still doesn't even show a signal.