Thread: C.C. Sabathia: Traded to Brewers?

Originally Posted by HD MM

BTW,
LaPorta WAS the Brewers top prospect.

This is pretty impressive considering everything that I've been reading has said that the Brewers have one of the deepest stockpile of minor league talent in the league.



Sabathia will be missed indeed. But in the past few weeks/months, I've come to realization that we wouldn't be competing this year and the we needed to look towards the future.

Another perspective :
Cleveland would get minor league outfielder Matt LaPorta, who is hitting .288 with 20 homers and 66 RBIs in 84 games for Double-A Huntsville, and others.
The other players do not include top prospects Alcides Escobar or Mat Gamel, according to the Journal Sentinel.

Jimbo

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Another perspective :
Cleveland would get minor league outfielder Matt LaPorta, who is hitting .288 with 20 homers and 66 RBIs in 84 games for Double-A Huntsville, and others.
The other players do not include top prospects Alcides Escobar or Mat Gamel, according to the Journal Sentinel.

Jimbo

Jimbo,

Alcides Escobar and Mat Gamel were two of the Brewers "top prospects", but not "THE" top prospect. Escobar was considered their 3rd best and Gamel was considered their 6th best prospect.

LaPorta was without a doubt the best prospect.

See link here>
BaseballAmerica.com: Prospects: Top 10 Prospects: Milwaukee Brewers

Originally Posted by HD MM

Jimbo,

Alcides Escobar and Mat Gamel were two of the Brewers "top prospects", but not "THE" top prospect. Escobar was considered their 3rd best and Gamel was considered their 6th best prospect.

LaPorta was without a doubt the best prospect.

See link here>
BaseballAmerica.com: Prospects: Top 10 Prospects: Milwaukee Brewers

There is no doubt that Sabathia was gone at the end of the year and I think Cleveland came out well in this trade, they picked up 3 top prospects...they were not Milwaukee's best(no pun intended there....LOL) but considering that I have a strange feeling Milwaukee will not be able to afford BOTH Sheets AND Sabathia, he just a rental.

The below column is from a well respected local Blog, bidding farewell to #52.

C.C., I'd like to thank you personally for the memories. You will be missed dearly big fella. Now, in words that I could not express better myself..........


Au Revoir, Big Fella…We Will Miss You | WaitingForNextYear

We say goodbye to the Ace, the leader, and one of the core guys who makes up the heart and soul of the Cleveland Indians, as C.C. Sabathia has been traded to the Milwaukee Brewers.

The Indians have officially shut the door on the C.C. Sabathia era in Cleveland, trading the Cy Young winner, 3 time All-Star, and Ace of the Staff to the Milwaukee Brewers for Matt LaPorta, 2 prospects, and a player to be named later. As a Cleveland sports blogger, there were 2 articles I have dreaded the thought of writing. Today, I am forced to write one of the two, and that is my farewell piece to the last remaining bridge between 2 eras of Indians baseball. As a rookie in 2001, this heralded prospect was given a chance to earn a spot in the rotation in Spring Training of that year. Carsten Charles Sabathia did just that, and on April 8, 2001 against the Baltimore Orioles, the Big Fella began an epic career with the team, and by the end of the season, he would find himself with a 17-5 record, a respectable 4.39 ERA, 171 strikeouts, and a key member of a team that would reclaim their rightful spot as AL Central Champions.

Who could have possibly known that season would slam the door on the “Era Of Champions” at Jacob’s Field? It was an era of 5 straight division titles, 6 out of 7 division crowns overall, and 2 World Series appearances. Many of us thought CC would just be the next torch bearer on an era that seemed like it would never end.

Instead, Sabathia would have to be the gatekeeper for a team going through a brutal rebuilding period. The Indians went from seasons of successes, packed houses, huge national attention, and large personalities and superstars to a time of losing, empty stadiums, media wastelands, and faceless and nameless players. All the while, though, CC Sabathia kept his mouth shut, his head down, and gave the Indians everything he had as he honed and developed his stuff and built himself into the guy who would eventually take home baseball’s highest honor for pitchers, the Cy Young Award. By the time his career as an Indian was over, CC would see the team through the rebuilding phase and into a new team of potential, high hopes, and mixed successes. He would be there in 2004 when the Indians first began to show new signs of life. He would be there in 2005 when the Indians won 93 games and just narrowly missed out on finishing an epic comeback in the AL Central. He would be there in 2007 when the Indians would finally take their spot atop the AL Central once again by winning 96 games and falling just one game short of a return to the World Series.

Even this season, with the cloud of uncertainty hanging over his head and early struggles, CC would never complain or point fingers or place blame on circumstances. Instead, he did what he has always done, which is suck it up and go back to work. By the time he was finished, he would lower his ERA from 13.50 to 3.83, going over a month without losing to close out his time as an Indian.

And so it is, after 7 and a half glorious, fun seasons of watching CC Sabathia do what aces do best, take the ball every 5 days and go out there and give his team a great chance to win, Sabathia is now no longer a Cleveland Indian. It’s going to take a long time for many of us to come to terms with this fact. It sounds cheap and hollow, but it really is true that you never know what you had until it’s gone, and now I fear that will be the case with Sabathia.
You don’t just simply replace a guy who made 237 starts in 7.5 seasons (An average of 31.6 starts per year). You can’t find guys who average 168 strikeouts per year to just 66 walks. CC has meant everything to the Indians’ starting rotations for close to a decade now, and one can’t shake the feeling that things may never be quite the same.

We were definitely on board with the Indians’ decision to trade Sabathia. If CC didn’t want to renegotiate a new deal with Cleveland now, then the Indians had to look out for their own best interests and try to get whatever they could. We can debate if the Indians really got enough in return, and we can debate whether or not the Indians acted a little too soon and didn’t wait for the heavy hitters to get involved and drive up the bargaining price of Sabathia, but those are debates for another day. Today is about remembering an all-time great member of the Cleveland Indians. It’s a day for remembering one of the most active members of the Tribe in local and national charities. It’s a day for remember one of the Indians who was always one of the most visible players in the community. It’s about remembering the Indians career of arguably the first true “ace” the Indians have had since the days of Bob Feller and Bob Lemon.

Sabathia will walk away from the Indians with a career record of 106-71. He made 237 starts and had 19 complete games, 7 of which were shutouts. He had a career ERA of 3.83 and a WHIP of 1.265. He struck out 1265 batters and walked just 498. All of this, and he was in all likelihood just getting warmed up. At just 28 years of age, Sabathia was just entering the peak of his prime.

It truly is hard to believe we will never see Big Number 52 suit up and take the mound for the Indians ever again. I know many of us will cling on to the hope that Sabathia will sign with the Indians in the offseason, but if that’s really what he wanted, he would have accepted the Indians last ditch offer before they traded him to remain an Indian. Instead, he declined, and there’s no reason to think he’ll reconsider after the season is over. Instead, he has moved on, and will now help the Brewers try to catch the Cubs in the NL Central. We wish Sabathia nothing but the best and huge success in all his future endeavors….may they please be with someone outside the AL Central.

I think I called this one about a week ago. Great Trade to get CC out of the Central and over to the NL to beat out the Cubbies. Both of my teams will benefit greatly! The Indians will be very happy with LaPorta. There has been some talk about bringing him up, but there wasn't a place for him on their current roster.

Laporta was touted the #1 prospect by baseball america but in the brewer organization the most coveted players are easily Escobar and Gamel. Gamel will fill the hole at 3rd base left by Braun in a year or two. His defense is well... worse than Braun's was. Escobar is said to be the next Jose Reyes with his combination of speed, range, and power. I still see the Brewers moving someone for bullpen help perhaps using Weeks as bait. They may also use Hardy while he is hot right now as trade bait to go after relief help.

The problem the Brewers were going to have was with where to put Laporta. He was a first baseman moved to a corner outfield position. He is an average defender with a below average arm. With Braun, Hart, and Fielder being at their respective positions for a few years to come, it is hard to see where there would have been room to put Laporta.

Originally Posted by dilbuck

Laporta was touted the #1 prospect by baseball america but in the brewer organization the most coveted players are easily Escobar and Gamel. Gamel will fill the hole at 3rd base left by Braun in a year or two. His defense is well... worse than Braun's was. Escobar is said to be the next Jose Reyes with his combination of speed, range, and power. I still see the Brewers moving someone for bullpen help perhaps using Weeks as bait. They may also use Hardy while he is hot right now as trade bait to go after relief help.

The problem the Brewers were going to have was with where to put Laporta. He was a first baseman moved to a corner outfield position. He is an average defender with a below average arm. With Braun, Hart, and Fielder being at their respective positions for a few years to come, it is hard to see where there would have been room to put Laporta.

Yeah, well it works out well for him in coming to an AL team then. He can either compete for a spot at his natural position at 1B or become a DH.

The more I think about this......the more I get the feeling the Brew Crew are going to rue this day. Yes, they have bolstered their rotation considerably (in a wide open league), but the Brewers bullpen is still a problem that needs to be addressed. IMO, the Cubs still win the Central, so Milwaukee will have to hope for the Wild Card. If LaPorta pans out as advertised, what will Milwaukee have to show for it?

Originally Posted by BillD1984

The more I think about this......the more I get the feeling the Brew Crew are going to rue this day. Yes, they have bolstered their rotation considerably (in a wide open league), but the Brewers bullpen is still a problem that needs to be addressed. IMO, the Cubs still win the Central, so Milwaukee will have to hope for the Wild Card. If LaPorta pans out as advertised, what will Milwaukee have to show for it?

2 draft picks if Sabathia bolts to a major market town as expected following this year.