NBA 2008-09 Season

**salsadancer7** · 03-10-2009 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by HD MM

LeBron was "expected" to have one of the best modern day seasons in the NBA?!....... And he lived up to those expectations?!..... And now that is going to be overlooked?! Wow, what a burden it is to be the King!

Excuse me while I slam my head against the wall.

I just find it funny that the same argument AGAINST LeBron for MVP last year is the same argument FOR D-Wade this year. Double standard here?

What kind of season did Cleveland had BEFORE last year....ahhh, 50-32...what was LAST YEARS record for the Heat....?!! Oh yeah, an NBA WORST 15-67...the ONLY team that DID NOT WIN at least 20 games. So sorry, that argument about "last year" does not fall in the same category. Cleveland had come off a great year after making the playoffs and mature Lebron was gonna get better.

**HD MM** · 03-10-2009 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by salsadancer7

What kind of season did Cleveland had BEFORE last year....ahhh, 50-32...what was LAST YEARS record for the Heat....?!! Oh yeah, an NBA WORST 15-67...the ONLY team that DID NOT WIN at least 20 games. So sorry, that argument about "last year" does not fall in the same category. Cleveland had come off a great year after making the playoffs and mature Lebron was gonna get better.

But how do you or anyone know what kind of season the Cavs would have if LeBron was injured?!

That's the problem with your arguments. They're all based on assumptions and hypotheticals.

Shouldn't it have been "expected" for the Heat to improve with a healthy D-Wade?

**salsadancer7** · 03-10-2009 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by HD MM

But how do you or anyone know what kind of season the Cavs would have if LeBron was injured?!

That's the problem with your arguments. They're all based on assumptions and hypotheticals.

Shouldn't it have been "expected" for the Heat to improve with a healthy D-Wade?

And isn't an injury a hypothetical AND an assumption?! See NOW you want it both ways.

Look, plain and simple, these are finely tuned athletes that MORE THAN LIKELY, will not get injured. So it is WAY beyond an assumption that Lebron was GOING to have a better season with a better team and more maturity.

After Wade's injury AND surgery, HOW he was gonna come back and what type of team was a complete mystery, from head coach to last guy on the bench. The same could not be said about the Cavs.

The funniest part of this argument is that the Cavs team THEMSELVES are proving this point for me. Every time Miami has lost to the Cavs, it has been Lebron supporting cast that has come up in the clutch. The same could not be said for a young Heat team.

The tough thing about Lebron is , he has to share the spotlight in the league WITH Kobe and Wade. Michael had some great players in his time, but NO ONE in his hemisphere. Look at the Bird/Magic years....they had to share the spotlight because quite honestly, no one was in their league and there was always the dabate of WHO was better.

**salsadancer7** · 03-10-2009 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by HD MM

Shouldn't it have been "expected" for the Heat to improve with a healthy D-Wade?

YES....but now you are 'assuming' he was gonna comeback like the same Wade. AND after winning just 13 games, you gotta assume the Heat were gonna have a better record...couldn't you?

**HD MM** · 03-10-2009 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by salsadancer7

YES....but now you are 'assuming' he was gonna comeback like the same Wade. AND after winning just 13 games, you gotta assume the Heat were gonna have a better record...couldn't you?

I assume nothing. I leave that to you. My original remark was poking fun at you.

**Paul Wozniak** · 03-10-2009 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by BillD1984

Apparently Sir Charles didn't hit the treadmill in the prison gym!

Is Charles in the foreground or the background?

**Paul Wozniak** · 03-10-2009 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by SabresRule

It's official- the Orlando Magic only have one weakness- the Pistons.

Detroit can ONLY do posteason damage if they draw the Magic; contrast that with how Orlando has owned the 76ers, the team that is one game behind Detroit in the East standings.

It would suit Detroit well to remain the 6th seed, and play Orlando in the first round. We "own" them.

**BillD1984** · 03-10-2009 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Paul Wozniak

It would suit Detroit well to remain the 6th seed, and play Orlando in the first round. We "own" them.

That's true, but I STILL don't want the Celtics to draw the Pistons in the first round.

**HD MM** · 03-10-2009 01:32 PM

Looks like the Celtics have another injury to deal with as Rajon Rondo could miss seven to 10 days.

Rondo was out of the lineup Sunday against the Magic, and his absence was obvious from the start. Reserve guard Stephon Marbury started in place of Rondo and recorded zero assists while scoring just four points.

Boston Celtics - NESN.com : Rondo could be out 10 days

**Paul Wozniak** · 03-10-2009 01:34 PM

A couple of weeks ago, that was certainly a possibility. Trust me, we don't want any part of that either. Now that Curry got lucky (AI getting injured, and coming out of the starting lineup), I don't see them falling to 8th anymore. Funny how a winning streak can change one's outlook. There still is the possibility of AI coming back and ruining the second units chemistry, but I don't see that happening. I think AI will make the bench stronger. He should have been coming off the bench in the first place, but Curry didn't have the backbone to try that. The injury has forced his hand.

I still don't see us beating Boston or Cleveland, but we sure could make a long series out of either matchup, something neither Boston or Cleveland would want in any round. Especially when you consider the physical punishment of playing Detroit. A sleeping giant may have reawaken.