NBA 2008-09 Season

**salsadancer7** · 01-29-2009 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by HD MM

1. Why do you think the Lakers are "more legit than the Cavs"?

Because they have been in and out of either the West Finals/NBA Championship the last 3 to 4 years, they play in a tougher conference as far as competition is concerned. Simple really.

Originally Posted by HD MM

2. And by "legit" I mean, are they the best team in the West as their record currently indicates? I guess we'll find out whether or not once their home/away schedule ratio plays out. That's why we play the games after all....

Again, do not go by regular season record all the time....it's a mirage. Having the best record in the regular season does not mean ANYTHING. Like I have stated before, the #1 seed in both conferences has won the NBA championship only 5 or 6 times in the last 11 years dating back to the '97-98 season, the last time the Bulls won it.

**salsadancer7** · 01-29-2009 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by CeltsHD

Has someone put something in Eddie House's Cheerios??!!

Last Wednesday in Miami he set a career high with 7 three-pointers.

Sunday against Dallas , he got 7 three-pointers again!

That brings us to tonight against Sacramento: Eddie has set a new career high with 8 three-pointers and there's still about five minutes left in the game!

The Garden crowd is going absolute bonkers chanting: Eddie!!! Eddie!!! Eddie!!!

No...Eddie House has always been a very good player. He really did not get a fair shake in Miami.

**salsadancer7** · 01-29-2009 07:30 AM

22 point win.....6 players in double figues....50 points off the bench and D. Wade messes around and almost got a triple double. Wade...14 pt....9 rebs....9 dimes...3 steals....3 blocks....ZERO turnovers.

And there's that kids Chalmers again....10 pts...5 rebs....7 dimes...3 steals...1 TO

AND without the Marion for the 4th night in a row. This team is just one good big man away from being with the Celtics, Cavs and the Lakers.

**HD MM** · 01-29-2009 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by CeltsHD

The Kings were actually leading by 10 in the 1st period.

But the Celtics outscored them, 40-19 in the 2nd period and cruised from there.

Sacramento has some very talented shooters. They don't play much defense, but they do have some very capable players.

**HD MM** · 01-29-2009 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by HD MM

1. Why do you think the Lakers are "more legit than the Cavs"?

Originally Posted by salsadancer7

Because they have been in and out of either the West Finals/NBA Championship the last 3 to 4 years, they play in a tougher conference as far as competition is concerned. Simple really.

Sorry to call you out, but you're wrong AGAIN.....

Let's review how the discussed teams ended their seasons the last 3-4 years.

'04-'06: Lakers- 4th place in Division. Missed playoffs.
'05-'06: Lakers- 3rd place in Division. Eliminated in First round of playoffs.
'06-'07: Lakers- 2nd place in Division. Eliminated in First round of playoffs.
'07-'08: Lakers- 1st place in Divison. Eliminated in NBA Finals.
'08-'09: Lakers- ?

'04-'05: Cavs- 4th place in Division. Missed playoffs.
'05-'06: Cavs- 2nd place in Division. Eliminated in 2nd round of playoffs.
'06-'07: Cavs- 2nd place in Division. Eliminated in NBA Finals.
'07-'08: Cavs- 2nd place in Division. Eliminated in 2nd round of playoffs (against eventual NBA Champion Cletics).
'08-'09: Cavs- ?

Tell me again, why are the Lakers "more legit than the Cavs"???

Originally Posted by HD MM

2. And by "legit" I mean, are they the best team in the West as their record currently indicates? I guess we'll find out whether or not once their home/away schedule ratio plays out. That's why we play the games after all....

Originally Posted by salsadancer7

Again, do not go by regular season record all the time....it's a mirage. Having the best record in the regular season does not mean ANYTHING. Like I have stated before, the #1 seed in both conferences has won the NBA championship only 5 or 6 times in the last 11 years dating back to the '97-98 season, the last time the Bulls won it.

Fine, we'll go by your argument that the "regular season is all a mirage". Let's look at playoffs only...

Besides the seasons that the Lakers were eliminated from the playoffs and the one season they made it to the Championship, they were eliminated in the first round the other two occasions. The Cavs on the other hand at least made it to the second round and were eliminated from the playoffs two years in a row by the eventual NBA Champions. Tell me again, who's "more legit"???

**CeltsHD** · 01-29-2009 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by salsadancer7

Because they have been in and out of either the West Finals/NBA Championship the last 3 to 4 years, they play in a tougher conference as far as competition is concerned. Simple really.

I'm not so sure that the West is stronger than the East anymore. The West certainly has more depth as far as quality teams go, BUT the West also has five of the six worst teams in the NBA.

So sure the Lakers have to play the New Orleans, San Antonios, Houstons, Phoenixs, Denvers, etc. four times each, but they also get to play Memphis, Oklahoma City, the Clippers, Sacramento, Golden State and Minnesota four times each.

**CeltsHD** · 01-29-2009 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by salsadancer7

No...Eddie House has always been a very good player. He really did not get a fair shake in Miami.

I agree.

I just never realized he was THAT good.

**SandraC** · 01-29-2009 01:50 PM

Nice doubleheader tonight...

8:00 Cleveland - Orlando

Home court is going to be huge between these two and the Celtics

10:30 San Antonio - Phoenix

One of these days the Suns are going to figure out what kind of team they are.

Sandra

**salsadancer7** · 01-29-2009 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by HD MM

Sorry to call you out, but you're wrong AGAIN.....

Let's review how the discussed teams ended their seasons the last 3-4 years.

'04-'06: Lakers- 4th place in Division. Missed playoffs.
'05-'06: Lakers- 3rd place in Division. Eliminated in First round of playoffs.
'06-'07: Lakers- 2nd place in Division. Eliminated in First round of playoffs.
'07-'08: Lakers- 1st place in Divison. Eliminated in NBA Finals.
'08-'09: Lakers- ?

'04-'05: Cavs- 4th place in Division. Missed playoffs.
'05-'06: Cavs- 2nd place in Division. Eliminated in 2nd round of playoffs.
'06-'07: Cavs- 2nd place in Division. Eliminated in NBA Finals.
'07-'08: Cavs- 2nd place in Division. Eliminated in 2nd round of playoffs (against eventual NBA Champion Cletics).
'08-'09: Cavs- ?

Tell me again, why are the Lakers "more legit than the Cavs"???

Fine, we'll go by your argument that the "regular season is all a mirage". Let's look at playoffs only...

Besides the seasons that the Lakers were eliminated from the playoffs and the one season they made it to the Championship, they were eliminated in the first round the other two occasions. The Cavs on the other hand at least made it to the second round and were eliminated from the playoffs two years in a row by the eventual NBA Champions. Tell me again, who's "more legit"???

Who they were eliminated by means nothing, they were eliminated....period. Funny how you didn't put in who the Lakers were eliminated by?

2005-6....eliminated by the Western Conference Champs
2006-7...eliminated by the Wester Conference Runner-up
2007-8...Lost in the Finals to the Celtics

So if you look at it, DID make the mistaken of the initial comment. MY comment about the lakers being "more worthy" was based on my opinion. You have shown no proof, conclusive or otherwise that you are neither right nor wrong.

So I ask you, other than the homer in you, have you proven then ARE more worthy than the Lakers?

**HD MM** · 01-29-2009 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by salsadancer7

Who they were eliminated by means nothing, they were eliminated....period. Funny how you didn't put in who the Lakers were eliminated by?

2005-6....eliminated by the Western Conference Champs
2006-7...eliminated by the Wester Conference Runner-up
2007-8...Lost in the Finals to the Celtics
So if you look at it, DID make the mistaken of the initial comment. MY comment about the lakers being "more worthy" was based on my opinion. You have shown no proof, conclusive or otherwise that you are neither right nor wrong.

So I ask you, other than the homer in you, have you proven then ARE more worthy than the Lakers?

Your OPINION?! Your stinking opinion?! Are you kidding me? What is this opinion based on? Because it certainly isn't based on facts! Back it up before you make such a bold statement Mr. Chip Dip!

Again, you started this whole thing. I didn't say the "Lakers are more legit that the Cavs". You did! And when I asked you to clarify, you responded based on false information. I'm just setting the record straight. No need for false claims going around on message boards....

Originally Posted by HD MM

1. Why do you think the Lakers are "more legit than the Cavs"?

Originally Posted by salsadancer7

Because they have been in and out of either the West Finals/NBA Championship the last 3 to 4 years, they play in a tougher conference as far as competition is concerned. Simple really.

BZZZZZZ. Wrong! They HAVE NOT been in and out of either the Western Conference Finals or NBA Championship the last 3-4 years. They've sniffed one of those ONCE in the time frame you speak of. You make these Lakers seem like the Bulls dynasty of the 90's.